God damn joe biden was like a corpse with a speaker shoved up his ass and someone working his mouth open and closed.
God damn joe biden was like a corpse with a speaker shoved up his ass and someone working his mouth open and closed.
This dude is in bad shape. I can also tell they shot him up with a drug cocktail again but it wasn't working. It Probably was playing against
the cold or whatever he had. maybe he got covid again. it's booming right now. ---
as a tool to get rid of him and put Obama's wife in there... IMHO.
My wife said he was on TV today and looked totally recovered from his 'cold'.
Re: oh man joe biden
By: MRO to All on Fri Jun 28 2024 01:05 pm
God damn joe biden was like a corpse with a speaker shoved up his ass and someone working his mouth open and closed.
I actually felt sorry for him. He has no business attempting another presidency. I think the Democrat party did it to him deliberately to use it as a tool to get rid of him and put Obama's wife in there... IMHO.
My wife said he was on TV today and looked totally recovered from his 'cold'.
The new format really didn't help him. Without Trump interrupting him, he was allowed to ramble and stumble for his full amount of time. I only watched the first hour. I saw some clips from later where they must have left both mics on as there was some sparring going on (about golf hadicaps, of all things).
God damn joe biden was like a corpse with a speaker shoved up his ass and someone working his mouth open and closed.
I actually felt sorry for him. He has no business attempting another presidency. I think the Democrat party did it to him deliberately to use it
a tool to get rid of him and put Obama's wife in there... IMHO.
Allegedly, she has denied wanting the job multiple times. That may be why they kept him and are now scrambling.
maybe he didn't have a cold and what they injected him with gave him a bad >reaction. i know they shoot him up with stuff to try to get him alert. i ave
been watching him in the past and i see when it wears off.
I believe the 9-11pm ET time slot was too late for him to be alert. I do not believe the "cold" excuse.
afterwards there's a vid of his wife leading him down the stairs and he's shaking hands or something with the debate people. they said trump walking ou
showed he didn't have class. his wife leading him like that looked horrible too.
there's an 'expert' i saw in a video who predicts that biden will stop
his run for re-election and there's a short list of people that will step in. california gov, michigan gov and other people.
Now i see people saying that they want him to be a figurehead like the queen o
england and they are happy with him having such a great team running the govt.
also had another person there to assist in the event that Joe fell to the side Jill was not on.
It is too bad Trump didn't exit in the same manner. That would have provided a perfect contrast.
there's an 'expert' i saw in a video who predicts that biden will stop
his run for re-election and there's a short list of people that will step in. california gov, michigan gov and other people.
Those are the two substitues I have also seen mentioned the most. Ironic they are not mentioning Kamala. If Joe steps aside, I wonder if they'd
even keep her as the VP candidate?
Newsome is desperate to get out of CA before they vote him out. Michigan's governor is one of the ones, like Cuomo, who chucked COVID patients into nursing homes and killed a bunch of people, and who didn't stop doing so once it started killing people.
There were some saying that four years ago when it was pointed out that he was already not all there.... "Trump will surround himself with yes people, but Biden will build a good team." I agree with the first half of the sentence, but a Democrat team being good only is true if you believe that moving left and being globalist is good.
Some are jumping. Others (people I know) have really dug in. They would defend the debate performance if all he did was stand there and drool. They really hate Trump that much. They probably don't care for Biden but are happy with how his handlers are running the country. Just as long as it is a Democrat and not Trump they don't care.
I have grown tired of both of them also. I cannot think of any Democrat that I think is "really good." They cannot run Barack again, his wife supposedly does not want to run, and whoever is left is probably more
left than the Biden Administration has been.
Supposedly Kamala is upset that the names being floated by some Democrat pundits do not include hers.
That said, he danced around a few others and flat out didn't answer one. Biden actually seemed to briefly gain coherence and gave what I thought was a good answer to a Jan 6 question that Trump didn't really answer.
The way things are going, RFK will likely get my vote if he is on the ballot in my state. If Biden runs and wins, Kamala will wind up
President between now and 2028, which is a non starter for me.
I cannot vote for Trump because of his previous insistance that DW> Presidents are basically above the law.
I believe the 9-11pm ET time slot was too late for him to be alert. I do not believe the "cold" excuse.
The Democrats would have to swing hard towards center for me to even consider them. I cannot vote for Trump because of >his previous insistance that Presidents are basically above the law.
I disagree about Trumps 'above the law' view - I think they DO need to be above the law - because they literall have to be. Cmon dude; you think Bush didn't break ALL the laws going into Iraq? But thats the point... we pick a leader, and we stand behind them; I think yer getting wrapped up with the messenger in Trump, but what he's trying to say DOES make sense.
also had another person there to assist in the event that Joe fell to the side Jill was not on.
It is too bad Trump didn't exit in the same manner. That would have provided a perfect contrast.
I'm sure trump said goodbyes to individuals. Furthermore, this is also cnn which literally is his enemy. On their site they are still bulding up biden and talking about trump repeating "falsehoods".
Biden WAS a world class debator. There was nothing he was better at. He couldn't debate a meatloaf at this point, and that's not a bunch of malarky.
Sherrod Brown ohio senator,
The 71-year-old would be the oldest of the alternate picks, but is still seven
years younger than Trump. It was considered a surprise when he did not have a tilt for the Democratic nomination for 2020, at the time saying remaining as Ohio's senator was "the best place for me to make that fight" on behalf of working people. A strong voice on labour rights and protections, he has also spoken defending IVF and abortion.
Trump literally ran it like a business. He even brought in people to give the
a chance and if they didn't work out, he cut them. That's how he does things.
He wanted everything to work like a business.
There were some people that didn't play along and just talked to the press all
the time. That didn't help out anything. Paul ryan comes to mind. Paul Ryan is a sellout. He used to be for the people but when he moved on up he sold out
That's what everyone is required to do when they work their way up in politics
Supposedly Kamala is upset that the names being floated by some Democrat pundits do not include hers.
She is a COMPLETE nothing burger. She'll never be the POTUS, not will she run for it. Her entire career was putting poc in prison and wants to somehow be a savior because she's on the democrat ticket? GTFOH.
That said, he danced around a few others and flat out didn't answer one. Biden actually seemed to briefly gain coherence and gave what I thought was a good answer to a Jan 6 question that Trump didn't really answer.
I was yelling at Trump; freaking SAY OUT LOUD that 12M people came to the border, literally said 'im scared of X country and need asylum' and we let the
in with a court date 38 mos later - its insane...
The way things are going, RFK will likely get my vote if he is on the ballot in my state. If Biden runs and wins, Kamala will wind up President between now and 2028, which is a non starter for me.
I cannot vote for Trump because of his previous insistance that DW> Presidents are basically above the law.
I agree that I can't vote Biden... RFK, while not someone I'd... want to vote for - I hear you.
I disagree about Trumps 'above the law' view - I think they DO need to be abov
the law - because they literall have to be. Cmon dude; you think Bush didn't break ALL the laws going into Iraq? But thats the point... we pick a leader, and we stand behind them; I think yer getting wrapped up with the messenger in
Trump, but what he's trying to say DOES make sense.
I believe the 9-11pm ET time slot was too late for him to be alert. I do
not believe the "cold" excuse.
Agree - I also think he's a career politician who can read a speech or a teleprompter better than the media... he's a politician; a washed up, RETIREE who won't give in. And he's gonna NOT give in until he fucks up the U.S. citizens because of his inability to realize......
He's fuckin dead, dude. He won't make it - well, MAYBE he'll be alive in 2028 but he won't be coherent. Go freaking retire and enjoy your awesome life... bu
no, he wants to keep fucking us till the last breathe.
Disgusting.
The Democrats would have to swing hard towards center for me to even considerthem. I cannot vote for Trump because of >his previous insistance that Presidents are basically above the law.
One thing to keep in mind is that Trump and MAGA have moved the overton window
far enough right that center looks left.
I find it incredulous that the parties
believe that these two are the best America has to offer. Then again, the parties are the problem.
Cmon dude; you think didn't break ALL the laws going into Iraq?
Waters get a bit muddy here.
So basically I think if you don't have the right to steal and lie and
kill then you cannot designate somebody to steal and lie and kill in
your name.
Democracy was ripping by the seams because half the country didn't Ar> respect due procedures, and in any other country this would have resulted Ar> in lots of politicians getting jailed for insubordination or rebellion.
Yeah, one of the few things that Biden was able to do was sometimes bait Trump into spending too much time refuting Biden's previous answer vs. giving a good answer of his own. There was another issue... I cannot remember which one... where Trump could have given a great answer but instead used his time to cover something Biden mentioned.
There are some protections regarding certain things that Presidents have to do, but they cannot be held above the law for everything... like terminating a political rival, as Trump's lawyer, in court, flat out agreed a President should be able to get away with so long as Congress does not impeach him/her.
I voted for Trump twice, tho 2016 was really a vote against HRC, so I don't think I have an issue getting wrapped up with the messenger there.
I certainly don't have the hate-boner for him that a lot of people do.
If I had to vote for one or the other this time, and had no other
choice, I'd have to vote for Trump again but since I don't have to I won't.
If we protect Presidents from prosecution from *everything*, we are no better than any other self-oppressive nations.
That is true, especially in the eyes of a MAGA or a far-right wing voter. There are some things that used to be center that they will flat out attack as being "leftist."
I agree 100% on both points. We have had nothing but horrible choices
since at least 2016. .
democratic debates as little more than bread and circuses for the masses where more viable candidates were cast aside. Buttigieg or even Yang would have been far superior. Trump and his ilk aren't healthy for our form of government.
That is true, especially in the eyes of a MAGA or a far-right wing voter. There are some things that used to be center that they will flat out attack as being "leftist."
Considering that in a sane political environment, Joe Biden is actually a center-right institutionalist, shows just how far the window has moved.
We've had horrible choices for far longer than that, it just became much more evident in 2016. The DNC's decision to run Hillary when Sanders had much more appeal, was a definite mistake. And then again in 2020 by annointing Biden as
the presumptive candidate and basically reducing the democratic debates as little more than bread and circuses for the masses where more viable candidate
were cast aside. Buttigieg or even Yang would have been far superior. Trump and his ilk aren't healthy for our form of government.
Until today - where I think the SCOTUS got it right and gave immunity for actions taken under the presidential position - and not external ones... perfect IMO; we now have it.
At this point I don't think we have another choice - I *really* wish we did. I don't think Trump is the end-all answer TODAY, but he sure is the ONLY choice.
Considering that in a sane political environment, Joe Biden is actually a center-right institutionalist, shows just how far the window has moved.
Joe himself could be. His handlers, and any Joe voters I know personally, are not.
maybe that's a good thing. our form of govt is dogshit.
Re: Re: oh man joe biden
By: MRO to Bryan on Tue Jul 02 2024 00:55:27
maybe that's a good thing. our form of govt is dogshit.
It's not. It's abhorrant that the supposedly greatest nation on the planet is so dysfunctional politically.
Trump and his ilk aren't healthy for our form of
government.
Problem is that a good politician can frame a lot of what they do as "under their presidential position"... "the dirt that Julian Assange was going to leak (on me) was a 'threat to our democracy' so we had to drone him today."
Or "The election was being stolen from me (which, in the nearly 4 years since, I have still not proven) so I had to have a rally in DC on the
day of the electoral college verification (even though no other outgoing President has ever done this), and it is not my fault the rally (that I should have know better NOT to have) got out of hand and they stormed
the Capitol."
Problem is that a good politician can frame a lot of what they do as "under their presidential position"... "the dirt that Julian Assange was going to leak (on me) was a 'threat to our democracy' so we had to drone him today."
You know; I was thinking 'they got it right' in the context of TODAY. Of what the left is trying to do to Trump and how I feel about that... the more I thin
about it, tho, is that in 20-40 years it will be used on the other side [or an
side] in ways that I'm NOT thinking about right now; in a negative way....
Or "The election was being stolen from me (which, in the nearly 4 years
Its not that the election was stolen - thats just stupid talk. But it was BS that they mass-mailin'ed every person in America. (Or, whatever it was...)
It changed how we do things; you go vote at your local school or church. In person - and we know the results within a few hours... I would have more respect for some new 'online' thing that we all AGREED on; where you VERIFY your ID and vote from a secure device.... but the mailin stuff was BS IMO.
What's so CRAZY about (lol) identification to freaking vote - its NEEDED, jesu
h christ!
He's good with dealing with foreign leaders.
He's not a warmonger like our other presidents.
Trump runs the country like a business.
Trump runs the country like a business.
I also cannot disagree with this, but will point out that a lot of businesses that are run like businesses go under. There are plenty of
parts of government that need running more like a business, for sure, but there are parts that require considerations that businesses don't normally face.
It has been suggested that some of his court cases could require retrials as some of the evidence used involved things he'd now be considered
immune from, even if the charges themselves were not things he was
immune from.
They didn't mass mail everyone but apparently some states did decide to mail every registered voter, which is wrong. In my state, you had to request the mail-in ballot. I only did so for the primary. I thought
the general was too important not to go in person.
What is wrong with sending to every registered voter? Well, when they sent out the info about obtaining a ballot, I got a postcard for me, for
a previous resident who now lives out of state (and had for 10 years),
and for the original resident who had been dead at least 15 years.
Being an honest individual, I sent mine back to get a primary ballot, and sent the other two back indicating their status.
Once COVID was considered "over," my state did away with the expanded mail-in balloting, resuming the previous requirements for absentee
voting. They also kept the limited, early in-person voting, which I find convienent and which shuts people up who claim the polls need to be kept open later on voting day.
They way they handled the mail-in, especially in some places, was indeed BS. There should never, ever be an unmanned polling place, like a drop box out in the open, where someone can drop off votes.
I really, really don't understand, or buy, the argument that you should *not* need ID in order to vote. That is what is crazy. If there really are too many barriers to getting an ID for legit citizens, fix the
problem by making it easier to get the ID.
people just want to hate on trump. I dont care about trump; i care about results. right now i'm living in a shitty world.
We aren't doing as well as the ukraine president's wife.
They didn't mass mail everyone but apparently some states did decide to mail every registered voter, which is wrong. In my state, you had to request the mail-in ballot. I only did so for the primary. I thought the general was too important not to go in person.
Texas - I moved away from there 5 years ago; my ex-GF got a mail-in that she could have filled out and mailed in... sure, I'm just one person - but I bet theres millions just like me????? Yes.
What is wrong with sending to every registered voter? Well, when they sent out the info about obtaining a ballot, I got a postcard for me, for a previous resident who now lives out of state (and had for 10 years), and for the original resident who had been dead at least 15 years.
Because I moved away from my ex-GFs house 5 years ago; and she received a ballot for Biden/Trump 2020... sure, I'm just one guy right? Wrong. Add in all
the people that aren't me. And all the people that are. And all the families with some person who wanted to vote this way or that; its stupid. ID - go to your polling station and vote. Just like is has been for 250 years. Stupid, IMO.
Being an honest individual, I sent mine back to get a primary ballot, and
sent the other two back indicating their status.
How many AREN'T you - more than you, I'd think...
They way they handled the mail-in, especially in some places, was indeed BS. There should never, ever be an unmanned polling place, like a drop box out in the open, where someone can drop off votes.
Agree - I thought you were on the other side from previous quotes. :P
We aren't doing as well as the ukraine president's wife.
Most of us are not doing as well as our own President's wife.
I point this out because, even in 2011, several years before his Presidential run, there were already people out there with TDS.
Texas - I moved away from there 5 years ago; my ex-GF got a mail-in that she could have filled out and mailed in... sure, I'm just one person - but I bet theres millions just like me????? Yes.
I don't have a hate-boner for Trump like a lot of people do. I do have a lot of concerns about his actions, and statements, since losing the election that make me question whether or not I would vote for him again.
I don't hate anyone...
I vote for things like $1.80/gal gas, supporting law enforcement, women only competing in women's sports... etc.
All things in the conservative plan.
Biden's plan is to hate Trump... Biden has no plan.
the democratic party's entire gameplan from when trump was elected to his last day was to fight trump. they got nothing done. things were sidelined because of trump. They weren't even doing their duties. There were times when i would read the minutes from their meetings and they did literally nothing but go on lunch.
I point this out because, even in 2011, several years before his Presidential run, there were already people out there with TDS.
Some people just aren't fans. Even before that, I've heard Biff Tannen from Back To The Future was based on Donald Trump.
I don't have a hate-boner for Trump like a lot of people do. I do have a
lot of concerns about his actions, and statements, since losing the election >> that make me question whether or not I would vote for him again.
I don't hate anyone... but I do not vote for the person. I vote for the platform.
I vote for the plan... not the man.
I vote for things like $1.80/gal gas, supporting law enforcement, women only competing in women's sports... etc.
Biden's plan is to hate Trump... Biden has no plan.
Texas - I moved away from there 5 years ago; my ex-GF got a mail-in that she >> could have filled out and mailed in... sure, I'm just one person - but I bet >> theres millions just like me????? Yes.
My brother in CA got three for my father who passed away in 2018 and has never
lived in CA.
Some people just aren't fans. Even before that, I've heard Biff Tannen
from Back To The Future was based on Donald Trump.
I will have to admit I have no idea who Biff Tannen is. I don't think I have ever seen that movie all the way through.
My brother in CA got three for my father who passed away in 2018 and has never
lived in CA.
Were they sent to him by California or by your father's former state of residence?
I don't have a hate-boner for Trump like a lot of people do. I do have a >> lot of concerns about his actions, and statements, since losing the election >> that make me question whether or not I would vote for him again.
I don't hate anyone... but I do not vote for the person. I vote for the platform.
I vote for the plan... not the man.
Part of his plan was to try to prove that Presidents were fully immune from criminal prosecution, which is where he lost me.
Were they sent to him by California or by your father's former state of residence?
Here they did not send out ballots but they did send out material on how to request one. I got material for myself, for the previour resident (who moved out of state 10 years before the election), and for the original resident who'd been dead for ~15 years.
I sent mine back to get a primary ballot, and sent theirs back with "no longer lives here" and "DECEASED" written on them. I didn't receive anything else for either of them.
My brother in CA got three for my father who passed away in 2018 and has never
lived in CA.
Were they sent to him by California or by your father's former state of residence?
I don't remember... I'd have to ask my brother that.
the democratic party's entire gameplan from when trump was elected to his last day was to fight trump. they got nothing done. things were sidelined because of trump. They weren't even doing their duties. There were times when i would read the minutes from their meetings and they did literally nothing but go on lunch.
Part of his plan was to try to prove that Presidents were fully immune from >> criminal prosecution, which is where he lost me.
it is very complicated stuff. There is a LOT of misinformation.
Trump claimed he had immunity involving his efforts to undo the election loss.
Part of this was him tryin got get pence to not certify the electoral votes.
Of course his lawyers are going to do their job and get him out of whatever comes.
If you want a president who doesn't break 'laws' and is held accountable for what they do, you are on the wrong planet. At that level, laws mean nothing and money means nothing.
At my workplace people received a lot of mail in ballots from
people who did not live at their houses. There were several people that had that issue.
Furthermore, there were crooked mail carriers who were selling
stacks of ballots.
I sent mine back to get a primary ballot, and sent theirs back with "no longer lives here" and "DECEASED" written on them. I didn't receive anything else for either of them.
get a big marker and write ANK on it. that's address not known. that's the only thing that will help you. The carrier can just file in the correct area a
the station.
sidelined because of trump. They weren't even doing their duties. There were times when i would read the minutes from their meetings and they did literally nothing but go on lunch.
My recollection is they got more done than the current MAGA congress.
If you substitute "MAGA Republicans" for "democrat party" and "Biden" for "trump" in your statement above, you'd have a good description of the last four years. The difference being that, under Biden, there will be a bill for something the MAGAs supposedly don't like so they will say "we cannot pass 'that' unless you add 'this'."
Politicians have always been bad, but this latest AOC/MTG crop his *especially* bad. Voters for both parties need to flush the toilet and start over.
whatever comes.
It really isn't that complicated. Listening to his lawyer agree, in court, that a President cannot be prosecuted for even killing a political
opponent, so long as Congress does not impeach him, was not misinformation repeated elsewhere. The dumbass did it. I thought for sure Trump would speak out or fire the guy, but he went along with it. The lawyer who did that wasn't the one fired, it was the dude he kept.
To agree to such a situation, under oath, in past would have completely unraveled their defense. To argue such nonsense is not their job.
It used to and still should. If we've let the country get to that point, we've really screwed up.
Furthermore, there were crooked mail carriers who were selling
stacks of ballots.
That I did not hear.
At my workplace people received a lot of mail in ballots from
people who did not live at their houses. There were several people that had that issue.
I have heard that it happened elsewhere (New York state, apparently California, and now apparently Wisconsin), but it didn't happen that way here.
Furthermore, there were crooked mail carriers who were selling
stacks of ballots.
oh i got my mail in ballot pack today. ripped it up. I'm supposed to be unregistered for voting.
oh i got my mail in ballot pack today. ripped it up. I'm supposed to be unregistered for voting.
So your state is still allowing mail-in for non-absentees. Interesting. That sounds shady.
oh i got my mail in ballot pack today. ripped it up. I'm supposed to be unregistered for voting.
So your state is still allowing mail-in for non-absentees. Interesting. That sounds shady.
they don't have to question the reason for it.
"Voting by Absentee Ballot
Under Wisconsin law, voters do not need a reason or excuse, such as being out of town on Election Day, to vote absentee. Any voter who prefers to vote by absentee ballot may request one.
"Voting by Absentee Ballot Under Wisconsin law, voters do not need
a reason or excuse, such as being out of town on Election Day, to
vote absentee. Any voter who prefers to vote by absentee ballot
may request one.
That is shady, but apparently legal. They should question it, and
they shouldn't just send it to you unrequested.
"Voting by Absentee Ballot
Under Wisconsin law, voters do not need a reason or excuse, such as being
out of town on Election Day, to vote absentee. Any voter who prefers to
vote by absentee ballot may request one.
That is shady, but apparently legal. They should question it, and they shouldn't just send it to you unrequested.
That is shady, but apparently legal. They should question it, and they shouldn't just send it to you unrequested.
It does say above "may request one," which would make it somewhat normal. However, if they're just sending them out to anyone and everyone (I don't believe my wife or I have ever gotten one, and we live in Wisconsin also).
I wonder if the people who do get them without requesting them are on some sort of mailing list through the government.
Wisconsin doesn't send a ballot unrequested. SOMEONE requested it, you just need to enter your full name and birthdate.
If someone else requests it on your behalf, without your permission, that's a violation of state laws (impersonating a registered elector).
That is shady, but apparently legal. They should question it, and they shouldn't just send it to you unrequested.
i got a big packet and it said 'your home ballot' or some shit like that.
i tossed it out. I revoked my voter registration previously, too.
I was sick of jury duty shit.
I am not sure how it works in Wisconsin but here if you file a state tax return, iirc have a driver's license, and several other things non-voting related, you can still get jury duty.
About the only way to avoid it is by having no form of state-issued ID or any contact with state government where your address would be put on record... so no unemployment insurance, interaction with child support, a job that reports your income, etc.
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