So that "straight white men" was just an "edgy insult" as well, yes? This
isn't a one way street, here.
I apologize for forgetting to ask sooner. What's your "preferred term" for yourself?
No mention of it whatsoever, though. Instead, you insist on pushing
another agenda entirely, and putting people down if they don't have the
same views as you do.
"Why is the government getting involved in people's lives like this?" Van Schoiak said. "What purpose do we have in deciding that a couple who are 16 or 17 years old, their parents say, you know, `you guys love each other, go ahead and get married, you have my permission.' Why would we stop that?" ht tps://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article288424893.html#stor y link=cpy
Another reminder in case it didn't get noticed in an earlier message where I mentioned it: It's less than a week to Pride month. How about we get some real ACTUAL support from y'all, instead of jumping on the bandwagons of demonizing us.
Imagine a global 30-day cease-fire. Every conflict.
(Naaah, military-industrial complex shareholders wouldn't stand for it.)
I get it, you're a "middle of the road, I don't support you, but I don't want you to be murdered" type of guy. Do you speak out against those that do think I should be murdered, though? If not, then you're part of the problem.
I don't see it now, but you said something about me going about trying to get my point across the wrong way. Am I? I don't know that I agree with that opinion. First of all, I have no delusion that I'm going to convince anyone
Quoting Poindexter Fortran to Tiny <=-
Let's turn pride month into anti war month. Something that matters and will save the world.
Imagine a global 30-day cease-fire. Every conflict.
(Naaah, military-industrial complex shareholders wouldn't stand for
it.)
kk4qbn wrote to Ravne <=-
Re: BBS community improvements
By: Ravne to Accession on Tue May 28 2024 19:24:13
So that "straight white men" was just an "edgy insult" as well, yes? This
isn't a one way street, here.
I apologize for forgetting to ask sooner. What's your "preferred term" for yourself?
My question in all this crap is why do people think they need
label, I don't want someome to think of me as a straight white
male or a gay black toaster or whatever, because publicly my
sexual orientation is no ones business.. or anything else to that
matter.. I've never understood this..
I love /s how my desire to have the same rights as straight people is considered an "agenda" & how my desire to not be murdered is considered
my "view". That's really all Pride is about, our demands (you're damn
well right, we DEMAND) to be safe & have the same rights as everyone
else, including the right to fair jobs access, fair housing, everything that straight people expect for themselves. Pride is about normalizing
our existence in the world, not about trying to "shove our views in everyone's face".
with that opinion. First of all, I have no delusion that I'm going to convince anyone here of anything, I'm really not sure why I even keep responding. Except, maybe there's an LGBTQ person out there that's been afraid to come out & maybe seeing my posts will help them be less afraid.
leopards eating faces are straight people that pretend to support gay people just long enough to try to get us to let our guards down. ---
Yes. I also don't see straight white men having such a monopoly on entitledness, either. I see it in a lot of younger people regardless of race, gender, or sexual orientation.
They also mistake older people who worked hard for what they have as "entitled" when they just want to protect what they've earned. The key there is they "worked hard" for it and don't expect anything above what they worked for, unlike the entitled youth who thinks their short time of (maybe) working entitles them to the same things.
I think of the ones that signed a contract, (loan) to go to college then expect the rest of us that worked like dogs to pay their loans off.
Who tried to make child marriage legal recently? I know historically people >> did get married off at very young ages, but I have not seen any push to have >> that happen here in the US lately.
Missouri tried to ban child marriage but ran into resistance from house republicans.
Seven of the 14 committee members oppose the legislation and disagree with raising the state's marriage age, he said. "It's on the.going 16 to 18,"
"Why is the government getting involved in people's lives like this?" Van Schoiak said. "What purpose do we have in deciding that a couple who are 16 or
17 years old, their parents say, you know, `you guys love each other, go ahead
and get married, you have my permission.' Why would we stop that?"
Imagine a global 30-day cease-fire. Every conflict.
(Naaah, military-industrial complex shareholders wouldn't stand for it.)
Are you really implying that referring to straight white men as straight white men is just as hurtful as referring to LGBTQ people as fags,
pedos, & groomers? Really??!! Seriously??!!
You used it as a derogatory term, just as people use the words you mention as derogatory terms, also.
My question in all this crap is why do people think they need label, I don't >want someome to think of me as a straight white male or a gay black toaster or >whatever, because publicly my sexual orientation is no ones business.. or >anything else to that matter.. I've never understood this..
I love /s how my desire to have the same rights as straight people is considered an "agenda" & how my desire to not be murdered is considered my "view". That's really all Pride is about, our demands (you're damn well right,
we DEMAND) to be safe & have the same rights as everyone else, including the right to fair jobs access, fair housing, everything that straight people expec
for themselves. Pride is about normalizing our existence in the world, not about trying to "shove our views in everyone's face".
(Naaah, military-industrial complex shareholders wouldn't stand for it.)
I'd go the American way and turn it into a comercial festivity with discounts and liquidations of old stocks.
"Celebrate peace month with us! 40% off in any obsolete weaponry! Help the planet purchasing refurbished tanks instead of having new ones made! Try now our steel ammo, much less poisonous to the environment than traditional lead ammo, 30% off this month only!!!!"
So it is only legal with parental consent. They are not trying to *make it legal*, it is *already* legal.
By the way, you don't have to pick on a "hick state" for this, either. California also allows persons under 18 to marry with parental consent,
just like Missouri does.
fusion wrote to Ravne <=-
On 28 May 2024, Ravne said the following...
I love /s how my desire to have the same rights as straight people is considered an "agenda" & how my desire to not be murdered is considered
my "view". That's really all Pride is about, our demands (you're damn
well right, we DEMAND) to be safe & have the same rights as everyone
else, including the right to fair jobs access, fair housing, everything that straight people expect for themselves. Pride is about normalizing
our existence in the world, not about trying to "shove our views in everyone's face".
this has to be a joke. easily the largest source of violence
against your community is from within. domestic violence is huge
.. why do you hate each other? everything you read will say the
violence is perpetrated by a "partner" .. what sort of parter do
you expect a gay person might choose? everyone is so desperate to
make it seem like random straight guys are going around beating
up gay (or trans or whatever) people for fun.
do you know how hard it is to find modern recent examples of "gay
bashing" like you want to fearmonger? wikipedia, the source for
all things bullshit, repeatedly will use wording like "in some
countries" and other vague wording.. do you know how large the
USA section of the Violence against LGBT people page is? And half
of it is COPE about "ohh, it's because nobody reports it" .. and
you know what happens when you lot have nothing to complain about
in the US? "well, it's still happening somewhere on the planet!"
..
it gets even more annoying when it's like "this homeless gay
person was robbed! gay homeless people are more likely to be
robbed! like 95%!" .. imagine i robbed 100 people and 5 of them
were gay.. a perhaps generous estimate of the % of people in the
US who are gay.. do you see how that skews that statistics?
almost every homeless person gets robbed. holy cow all the
homeless gay people got robbed, we have to do something about
this violence against queer people!
then you keep getting at how "words are violence" .. you
repeatedly lump the word "fag" in with "pedophile" and "groomer"
the first is an insult against a trait that can't be changed.. a
part of who you are, as some people insist. but the second two
it's obvious you would want to defend against. but if you remove
the second two we have the two options here:
"fag" <-> "straight white men"
these are traits that can't be changed, and your usage is meant
to degrade and demean. do you make fun of the handicapped?
perhaps people with speech impediments? bash a few redheads now
and again? these are now both traits protected under the Civil
Rights Act btw.. but talking about progress is lame right?
with that opinion. First of all, I have no delusion that I'm going to convince anyone here of anything, I'm really not sure why I even keep responding. Except, maybe there's an LGBTQ person out there that's been afraid to come out & maybe seeing my posts will help them be less afraid.
i know why you keep responding.. because that's exactly what you
came here for. you're like those people who on their first day
joining twitter are trying out their hand at some bullshit
trolling only to be dunked on by a bunch of spergs with anime
avitars. you didn't want to be a part of this community, which is
why you set yourself apart from it in the beginning. "if it
wasn't for a few BBS women back in the day who told me everything
will be okay because you're a woman" .. fuck off. i was going to
ask if you wanted a parade for that, but that's exactly what you
want.
leopards eating faces are straight people that pretend to support gay people just long enough to try to get us to let our guards down. ---
this is mental illness. if you're afraid of people like this.
fear of what's around every corner.
Dumas Walker wrote to ACCESSION <=-as
Are you really implying that referring to straight white men as straight white men is just as hurtful as referring to LGBTQ people as fags, pedos, & groomers? Really??!! Seriously??!!
You used it as a derogatory term, just as people use the words you mention
derogatory terms, also.
+1
I apologize for forgetting to ask sooner. What's your "preferred term"
for yourself?
My question in all this crap is why do people think they need label, I don't want someome to think of me as a straight white male or a gay
black toaster or whatever, because publicly my sexual orientation is no ones business.. or anything else to that matter.. I've never understood this..
Hi! You can call me Tim!
I get it, you're a "middle of the road, I don't support you, but I don't want you to be murdered" type of guy. Do you speak out against those that do think I should be murdered, though? If not, then you're part of the problem.
+1
+2,000,000
I get it, you're a "middle of the road, I don't support you, but I don't
want you to be murdered" type of guy. Do you speak out against those that do >> think I should be murdered, though? If not, then you're part of the problem.
I have a big issue when somebody claims that you either support him or you are >his enemy. That trait becomes an extremist and the claim is most often false >than true.
I think he thinks we're all depraved men in soiled sweatpants living in their parent's basement. Sounds like projection to me.
Re: Re: BBS community improvements
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Ravne on Mon May 27 2024 07:46 am
I think he thinks we're all depraved men in soiled sweatpants living in their parent's basement. Sounds like projection to me.
Yeah. I WISH my parents had a basement.
I think he thinks we're all depraved men in soiled sweatpants living in their parent's basement. Sounds like projection to me.
Yeah. I WISH my parents had a basement.
I wish mine still lived in their previous home. It had a finished basement (well, technically it was a bi-level) complete with bathrooms and bedrooms.
That'd be a nice setup! :D
Now, my mother lives in a much smaller home with no basement, while my father and his wife live in a home with a clean, dry basement but with no facilities. It does at least have electric and is a walk out. ;)
atleast you got a mom! my mom died of covid on her birthday.
atleast you got a mom! my mom died of covid on her birthday.
;(
True, and I am glad I do still have one.
summer. smoked marlboro reds every day.
summer. smoked marlboro reds every day.
That will unfortunately do it.
summer. smoked marlboro reds every day.
That will unfortunately do it.
When I was in 5th grade, I remember the class having an assignment to make som
mock advertisements to promote health and not doing unhealthy things. I remember one of the students drew a graveyard with "Marlboro country" written below it.
Quoting Dumas Walker to Nightfox <=-
It surprises me even more now that cigarette smoking seems to be
making a comeback.
Back in the day, before my time (I am over 50), they promoted cigarettes differently. In some cases, I believe that consumers were even lead to believe they might be healthy.
Quoting Dumas Walker to Nightfox <=-
It surprises me even more now that cigarette smoking seems to be
making a comeback.
We can get rid of more stupid people. I say advertise it, promote it
let them all smoke everywhere again. Who cares!?!? Where did I put my HEALTHY low tar darts?
Shawn
Re: Smoking
By: Dumas Walker to NIGHTFOX on Sat Jun 08 2024 10:34 am
Back in the day, before my time (I am over 50), they promoted cigarettes differently. In some cases, I believe that consumers were even lead to believe they might be healthy.
Absolutely true. I remember those commercials in the 60's. Every now and then, my wife will point one of the printed ads that gets posted on facebook from time to time.
Quoting Dumas Walker to Nightfox <=-
It surprises me even more now that cigarette smoking seems to be making a
comeback.
We can get rid of more stupid people. I say advertise it, promote it let them all smoke everywhere again. Who cares!?!? Where did I put my HEALTHY low tar darts?
I have noticed that there's a lot of smokers, and they continue on. It's extremely addicting. I started smoking around 10 and I stopped when iIt surprises me even more now that cigarette smoking seems to be making a comeback.We can get rid of more stupid people. I say advertise it, promote it let them all smoke everywhere again. Who cares!?!? Where did I put my
was 28 and I still want a cig when I smell someone smoking one. If you have friends who smoke you pretty much have no chance of quitting.
i actually somewhat miss it when people could smoke indoors. i remember one weekend everyone hanging out in the bar having a blast and the next weekend the law changed and it became this routine of people heading back and forth to smoke while i sat inside waiting. i don't miss hanging my jacket up on the deck to air it out though..
I had a lot of relatives, but none I lived with, that were life-long smokers at the time. It was really difficult for them to even consider stopping. What surprised me was how many people my age, and slightly younger, who picked up the habit despite the dire warnings.
It surprises me even more now that cigarette smoking seems to be making a comeback.
Suprising enough, My health problems did'nt start until I stopped smoking, and other lifestyle changes to try to benefit my health. It was a real shock to my body I guess.. took about 3-4 years to get my blood pressure and heart-rate stable.
Quoting Mro to Tiny <=-
I have noticed that there's a lot of smokers, and they continue on.
It's extremely addicting. I started smoking around 10 and I stopped
when i was 28 and I still want a cig when I smell someone smoking one.
If you have friends who smoke you pretty much have no chance of
quitting.
Suprising enough, My health problems did'nt start until I stopped smoking,
and other lifestyle changes to try to benefit my health. It was a real
shock to my body I guess.. took about 3-4 years to get my blood pressure
and heart-rate stable.
I quit in 2008 and other than the normal bs that goes with being a diabetic, I didn't really have any other issues.
My wife finally quit a little over a year ago. It was killing her. Less that three weeks after quitting, her face had completely changed and she looked much more lively and younger. She can't breathe anymore and she has gained about 20 lbs but I am just so glad she finally quit...
i actually somewhat miss it when people could smoke indoors. i remember one weekend everyone hanging out in the bar having a blast and the next weekend the law changed and it became this routine of people heading back and forth to smoke while i sat inside waiting.
Quoting Mro to Tiny <=-
I have noticed that there's a lot of smokers, and they continue on. It's extremely addicting. I started smoking around 10 and I stopped when i was 28 and I still want a cig when I smell someone smoking one.
I don't miss it at all anymore. The smell is pretty disgusting to me now.
I was still able to quit. It wasn't easy, but it wasn't like I was
climbing the walls either. Smoked for over 1/2 my life at the time I
quit.
cigarette smoking seems to be
making a comeback.
That surprises me too. :(
also stopped a long bout of an opoid
addiction so I'm sure that may have
Quoting Mro to Tiny <=-
whats disgusting is when people hit it hard and it's in their clothes
and their whole body. that smells horrible.
i guess you didnt have the junkie effect.
Yes it does. Even when they come in from outside after smoking the cheap native "bag o' smokes".
Re: Smoking
By: kk4qbn to Bf2k+ on Mon Jun 10 2024 08:20 am
also stopped a long bout of an opoid addiction so I'm sure that may have
Awesome that you kicked that. But, if you ever (EVER) decide to try again, PLEASE remember that you don't need to take as much as you did when you regularly did them, and only take a tiny fraction of what you did before.
To this day I still cannot stand to smell cigarettes and cant stand the taste or the consistancy of a soda, cannot believe I used to consume so much of that crap.
Pepsi is the last of my 'vices' and one I need to stop and soon...
Quoting Mro to Tiny <=-
I was still able to quit. It wasn't easy, but it wasn't like I was
climbing the walls either. Smoked for over 1/2 my life at the time I
quit.
Quoting Mickey to Tiny <=-
years after that i found out I had throat cancer and spent 4 months at Princess Margaret getting 'the works' during Covid. I STILL stared at butt's on the ground. Finally quit!
Pepsi is one of my favorite sodas (I like it better than Coke).
phigan wrote to Tiny <=-
Ugh, I had a buddy that smoked cloves all the time. I actually had to
air out my clothes even when I'd ONLY been in the same room with him,
not even around when smoking or anything.
whats disgusting is when people hit it hard and it's in their clothes and their whole body. that smells horrible.
Yes it does. Even when they come in from outside after smoking the cheap native "bag o' smokes".
It seems to me things like that in moderation are okay. Pepsi is one of my favorite sodas (I like it better than Coke).
It seems to me things like that in moderation are okay. Pepsi is one of my
favorite sodas (I like it better than Coke).
I prefer Double Cola, Red Rock, or RC, but they can be more difficult to find (especially the first two).
My real soda "vices" are Ski and Ale-8-One. ;)
To this day I still cannot stand to smell cigarettes and cant stand the taste or the consistancy of a soda, cannot believe I used to consume so much of that crap.
Pepsi is the last of my 'vices' and one I need to stop and soon...
Clove cigarettes remind me of hacky sack, college quads, diner coffee, half-read philosophy paperbacks, cheap gas, road trips, and being in my
20s.
carbonated water. It kind of fakes me out a little that I'm having a soda. I
whats disgusting is when people hit it hard and it's in their clothes and their whole body. that smells horrible.
Yes it does. Even when they come in from outside after smoking the cheap native "bag o' smokes".
When I was ~25, I went out for a while with a lady who smoked. I never could figure out how she did it but she never smelled like she smoked. I know she smoked outside often, but I also know she smoked in her car and in other indoor places (you could smoke in restaurants back then, for example).
On Wed Jun 12 03:58:00 2024, The Lizard Master wrote to Bf2k+ <=-
suggestions other than when I feel a hankering I actually have carbonated water. It kind of
On Wed Jun 12 08:26:00 2024, Dumas Walker wrote to TINY <=-
When I was ~25, I went out for a while with a lady who smoked. I never could figure out how she did it but she never smelled like she smoked. I know she smoked outside often, but I also know she smoked in her car and in other indoor places (you could smoke in restaurants back then, for example).
OTOH, about 10 years ago I went out for a few times with another gal who smoked. She was also, IMHO, an alcoholic. She often smelled like an ashtray that someone had spilled stale beer in. I am glad I didn't date
her when I was younger! :o
Clove cigarettes remind me of hacky sack, college quads, diner coffee, half-read philosophy paperbacks, cheap gas, road trips, and being in my 20s.
And not of goths? :)
When I was ~25, I went out for a while with a lady who smoked. I never could figure out how she did it but she never smelled like she smoked. I know she smoked outside often, but I also know she smoked in her car and in other indoor places (you could smoke in restaurants back then, for example).
I knew a women like that, she told me the trick is to hand sanatize before she >came
inside, as well as other washing tricks.
Tiny wrote to The Lizard Master <=-
I've been doing this for years as well. In fact having a club soda
now. It does fool me into thinking I'm not missing out.
Two hookers were talking on a street corner.
One of them asked "Do you smoke when you finish?"
The other one said "I don't know, I never looked."
Re: Smoking
By: Tiny to MRO on Tue Jun 11 2024 06:25 am
Yes it does. Even when they come in from outside after smoking the cheap native "bag o' smokes".
Ugh, I had a buddy that smoked cloves all the time. I actually had to air ou my clothes even when I'd ONLY been in the same room with him, not even aroun when smoking or anything.
Re: Smoking
By: phigan to Tiny on Tue Jun 11 2024 05:53 am
Re: Smoking
By: Tiny to MRO on Tue Jun 11 2024 06:25 am
Yes it does. Even when they come in from outside after smoking the cheap native "bag o' smokes".
Ugh, I had a buddy that smoked cloves all the time. I actually had to air ou my clothes even when I'd ONLY been in the same room with him, not even aroun when smoking or anything.
clove cigarettes taste nice but i never thought of how it made those around me smell. now i will rethink that.
DaiTengu wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
The other one said "I don't know, I never looked."
reminds me of one of my favorite taglines:
... If you smoke after sex you're doing it too fast.
Re: Re: BBS community improvements
By: kk4qbn to Ravne on Sat May 25 2024 15:16:25
Re: Re: BBS community improvements
By: Ravne to Gamgee on Mon May 27 2024 08:13 pm
Sorry, nobody needs to hijack an entire month for self glorification.
Or self pity how ever you want to look at it.
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