• Bbsing

    From MIKE POWELL@VERT/CAPCITY2/UUMOES to UTOPIAN GALT on Saturday, January 24, 2026 09:11:00
    I am thinking with government restrictions in Australia and the United Kingdo we should be using BBSing as an alternative medium. Its akin to HAM radio now

    You should not need to submit your ID just to use a bloody search engine.

    A lot of this could be avoided if parents were more aware of what their children were up to online, and also if the didn't look at tablets and
    phones as something to keep the kid occupied (and out of their hair).
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  • From Khronos@VERT/CWSHACK to MIKE POWELL on Sunday, January 25, 2026 12:23:31
    MIKE POWELL wrote to UTOPIAN GALT <=-

    I am thinking with government restrictions in Australia and the United
    Kingdo
    we should be using BBSing as an alternative medium. Its akin to HAM radio
    now

    You should not need to submit your ID just to use a bloody search engine.

    A lot of this could be avoided if parents were more aware of what their children were up to online, and also if the didn't look at tablets and phones as something to keep the kid occupied (and out of their hair).

    I agree with this point.
    Also parents need to teach their kids what things are acceptible to talk
    about online and what things are not.
    Standard stuff, don't give your address to anyone, if questions get
    personal in nature, always remember that ther's a person behind every keyboard.
    It was pretty simple, when I was about 14 our computer teacher at the residential school use to tell us, don't do anything online you don't
    want your mother to find out that you did.



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  • From MIKE POWELL@VERT/CAPCITY2/UUMOES to GAMGEE on Sunday, January 25, 2026 09:12:00
    Not sure what you're talking about here. I have certainly never done
    that.

    That is because you live in the "free-state" of Florida and not the UK or
    OZ. ;)

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  • From MIKE POWELL@VERT/CAPCITY2/UUMOES to FUSION on Sunday, January 25, 2026 09:19:00
    Fun fact, there is a character in that game whose role is that of an evi right-wing antagonist trying to turn you into a radical. Can you imagine
    that was quite funny actually. they made her hair purple because they assumed that people leaning right might associate that with something negative the sa way they do when they see left wing people with brightly colored hair.

    Which game is this?
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  • From fusion@VERT/CFBBS to MIKE POWELL on Sunday, January 25, 2026 21:34:00
    On 25 Jan 2026, MIKE POWELL said the following...

    Fun fact, there is a character in that game whose role is that of a right-wing antagonist trying to turn you into a radical. Can you im
    that was quite funny actually. they made her hair purple because they as that people leaning right might associate that with something negative t way they do when they see left wing people with brightly colored hair.

    Which game is this?

    it was titled "Pathways"

    apparently it went from removing her character and keeping the rest of the content as-is to completely shutting it down already

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANTIR to MIKE POWELL on Sunday, January 25, 2026 21:10:42
    MIKE POWELL wrote to GAMGEE <=-

    Not sure what you're talking about here. I have certainly never done
    that.

    That is because you live in the "free-state" of Florida and not the UK
    or OZ. ;)

    Hahaha, you got that right! I get a kick out of seeing that on the
    signs at the state border... ;-)




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  • From MIKE POWELL@VERT/CAPCITY2/UUMOES to KHRONOS on Monday, January 26, 2026 08:43:00
    Also parents need to teach their kids what things are acceptible to talk about online and what things are not.
    Standard stuff, don't give your address to anyone, if questions get
    personal in nature, always remember that ther's a person behind every keyboard.

    Yes!

    It was pretty simple, when I was about 14 our computer teacher at the residential school use to tell us, don't do anything online you don't
    want your mother to find out that you did.

    LOL yeah back then that would'
    have been a deterent. Now I am pretty sure she'd just roll her eyes at
    most of the silliness I get up to. :D

    Mike
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  • From MIKE POWELL@VERT/CAPCITY2/UUMOES to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Tuesday, January 27, 2026 08:21:00
    Yes, If you buy alchhol or tobacco you have to show id.
    So Trump is correct.
    Trump always baits the left.

    Groceries. He said Groceries.

    A little nostalgia trip... back in the 1970s and 80s (and probably beyond)
    if some of my extended relatives were going to buy "grocieries," those
    might be the two products they were going to buy. Maybe not so much
    alcohol but certainly tobacco.

    Of course, that was back in the day when they could send me to the corner
    store to buy a carton of unfiltered Camels and an ice cream treat for
    myself. No ID required. ;)
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  • From MIKE POWELL@VERT/CAPCITY2/UUMOES to FUSION on Tuesday, January 27, 2026 08:25:00
    It makes lefties extremely upset when you point out the homeless drunks that walk around downtown in various cities have no problem getting a state ID to continue to do what they do. Yet somehow a sixteen year old kid with no intention of getting a drivers license is somehow incapable, heck even put through significant hardship in the course of getting an non-drivers-license state ID. Right.. So if these guys do just fine using their ID at the grocery store and gas station for boozin', why can't everyone else do it to vote?

    I agree with your sentiment but, as an aside, depending on how your state
    has implemented the "Real ID" procedures, they may have made it much more difficult for non-drivers to get an ID. Based on what they have done in Kentucky... removed the ability to issue IDs from every county clerk's
    office, centralizing it in "regional offices"... I would estimate that
    they have.

    As I live in the capitol city, I have a regional office so I don't have
    any experience to go on there.
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  • From MIKE POWELL@VERT/CAPCITY2/UUMOES to GAMGEE on Tuesday, January 27, 2026 08:30:00
    Yes, but... even he knows. He's just talking out of his ass, like he
    often does, and like virtually all/any other politician does most of the time. They just can't seem to help it.

    A true, red MAGA would jump in and correct you here... "He IsN'T a
    POlitICIan, lEFty!"... while others might point out that he seems to talk
    out of his ass a whole lot more than average.

    I can remember when I thought that Obama used social media *way* too much
    but, compared to now, I almost cannot remember him using it at all. ;)
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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANTIR to MIKE POWELL on Tuesday, January 27, 2026 22:16:02
    MIKE POWELL wrote to GAMGEE <=-

    Yes, but... even he knows. He's just talking out of his ass, like he
    often does, and like virtually all/any other politician does most of the time. They just can't seem to help it.

    A true, red MAGA would jump in and correct you here... "He IsN'T a POlitICIan, lEFty!"... while others might point out that he seems to
    talk out of his ass a whole lot more than average.

    Hahaha, yep, no doubt. ;-)

    I can remember when I thought that Obama used social media *way* too
    much but, compared to now, I almost cannot remember him using it at
    all. ;)

    Another great point.




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  • From MIKE POWELL@VERT/CAPCITY2/UUMOES to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Wednesday, January 28, 2026 08:29:00
    Trump also equated showing ID at the gas station, something I've never done. for showing an ID at the grocery store, I suppose he should have been clearer about showing ID at a grocery store when buying age-restricted items.

    Gas stations are another place that people are apt to buy booze and, especially, cigarettes. The payment kiosks at the Kroger fuel depots here have a cashier surrounded by nothing but cigarettes. Snacks, etc., are in refrigerators and cabinets outside.

    Yes, he could have been more specific. Who knows what he really meant (probably part of the point)?
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  • From MIKE POWELL@VERT/CAPCITY2/UUMOES to ACCESSION on Wednesday, January 28, 2026 08:32:00
    Yes, because at a gas station, you can also buy chewing tobacco, cigarettes, and alcohol (sometimes). Most definitely, he should have been more clearer (i he ever, though?), precisely because people like to take what he says and twi it into something completely different.

    I think he likes being talked about. Saying things that can easily be
    twisted makes sure that he is.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MIKE POWELL on Wednesday, January 28, 2026 17:20:30
    Re: Bbsing
    By: MIKE POWELL to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Wed Jan 28 2026 08:29 am

    Gas stations are another place that people are apt to buy booze and, especially, cigarettes. The payment kiosks at the Kroger fuel depots here have a cashier surrounded by nothing but cigarettes. Snacks, etc., are in refrigerators and cabinets outside.

    Yes, he could have been more specific. Who knows what he really meant (probably part of the point)?

    I remember when restaurants & other places in the 80s (and maybe early 90s?) often had vending machines with packs of cigarettes (and naturally they didn't need ID). Interesting times, those were..

    Nightfox

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  • From fusion@VERT/CFBBS to Nightfox on Wednesday, January 28, 2026 22:24:00
    On 28 Jan 2026, Nightfox said the following...

    Re: Bbsing
    By: MIKE POWELL to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Wed Jan 28 2026 08:29 am

    Gas stations are another place that people are apt to buy booze and, especially, cigarettes. The payment kiosks at the Kroger fuel depots have a cashier surrounded by nothing but cigarettes. Snacks, etc., a refrigerators and cabinets outside.

    Yes, he could have been more specific. Who knows what he really mean (probably part of the point)?

    I remember when restaurants & other places in the 80s (and maybe early 90s?) often had vending machines with packs of cigarettes (and naturally they didn't need ID). Interesting times, those were..

    yeah, i think the last one i saw was in a local dive bar. they already
    verified you were 21 to enter so they were able to get away with it. afaik they removed it when they basically fumigated the place when smoking indoors in public places was banned.

    was a pretty hefty machine too. built like one of those big steelcase desks. shame it's not really convenient to sell anything else in them cause they're kinda cool

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANTIR to Nightfox on Wednesday, January 28, 2026 20:53:20
    Nightfox wrote to MIKE POWELL <=-

    I remember when restaurants & other places in the 80s (and maybe early 90s?) often had vending machines with packs of cigarettes (and
    naturally they didn't need ID). Interesting times, those were..

    Yes, I remember people smoking in restaurants for sure, and there was
    even a "smoking section" on airplanes. Ridiculous, since the smoke
    spread throughout the plane anyway. Glad that's gone.



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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to fusion on Wednesday, January 28, 2026 22:42:02
    Re: Re: Bbsing
    By: fusion to Nightfox on Wed Jan 28 2026 10:24 pm

    I remember when restaurants & other places in the 80s (and maybe
    early 90s?) often had vending machines with packs of cigarettes (and
    naturally they didn't need ID). Interesting times, those were..

    yeah, i think the last one i saw was in a local dive bar. they already verified you were 21 to enter so they were able to get away with it. afaik they removed it when they basically fumigated the place when smoking indoors in public places was banned.

    Yes, I remember those, they had them at every gas station and restruant.
    I remember eating out and there was "smoking" or "nonsmoking" area's.
    I'm glad they banned smoking in public places, much nicer going to restraunts now.
    They also had those big candybar vending machines.

    Denn

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to MIKE POWELL on Thursday, January 29, 2026 10:36:03
    MIKE POWELL wrote to FUSION <=-

    I agree with your sentiment but, as an aside, depending on how your
    state has implemented the "Real ID" procedures, they may have made it
    much more difficult for non-drivers to get an ID. Based on what they
    have done in Kentucky... removed the ability to issue IDs from every county clerk's office, centralizing it in "regional offices"... I would estimate that they have.

    I just got a real ID in California - needed a birth certificate and
    utility bill the first time. For an ID card, you would need similar
    proof of identity and residency documentation.

    In California, the department of motor vehicles has always been
    responsible for IDs and drivers licences.



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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Nightfox on Thursday, January 29, 2026 10:36:03
    Nightfox wrote to MIKE POWELL <=-

    I remember when restaurants & other places in the 80s (and maybe early 90s?) often had vending machines with packs of cigarettes (and
    naturally they didn't need ID). Interesting times, those were..

    Those old mechanical vending machines, with the pull knob. Probably
    needed a pocket-full of quarters, too.



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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to fusion on Thursday, January 29, 2026 10:36:03
    fusion wrote to Nightfox <=-

    was a pretty hefty machine too. built like one of those big steelcase desks. shame it's not really convenient to sell anything else in them cause they're kinda cool

    They could have filled it with those candy cigarettes for kids we used
    to have.



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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Denn on Thursday, January 29, 2026 10:36:03
    Denn wrote to fusion <=-


    Yes, I remember those, they had them at every gas station and
    restruant. I remember eating out and there was "smoking" or
    "nonsmoking" area's.

    I think '95 in Nashville was the last time I saw a smoking section in a
    restaurant. I was seated adjacent to it, in the non-smoking section.
    You're right, it didn't make a difference.




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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to poindexter FORTRAN on Thursday, January 29, 2026 11:16:55
    Re: Re: Bbsing
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Denn on Thu Jan 29 2026 10:36 am

    I think '95 in Nashville was the last time I saw a smoking section in a restaurant. I was seated adjacent to it, in the non-smoking section. You're right, it didn't make a difference.

    I agree, it didn't really make a difference. I'd think they would have ventilated the smoking section and design it to pull the smoke out, but that wasn't the case. At least, I don't recall ever seeing a restaurant that did that. But although that might have helped a bit, it might not have completely drawn all the smoke out anyway..

    Nightfox

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  • From Mortar@VERT/EOTLBBS to poindexter FORTRAN on Thursday, January 29, 2026 14:01:05
    Re: Re: Bbsing
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Nightfox on Thu Jan 29 2026 10:36:03

    Those old mechanical vending machines, with the pull knob. Probably needed a pocket-full of quarters, too.

    And a bit of muscle. Some of those pull-knobs were like mini workouts.

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  • From Mortar@VERT/EOTLBBS to Nightfox on Thursday, January 29, 2026 14:14:59
    Re: Re: Bbsing
    By: Nightfox to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu Jan 29 2026 11:16:55

    I agree, it didn't really make a difference. I'd think they would have ventilated the smoking section and design it to pull the smoke out, but that wasn't the case. At least, I don't recall ever seeing a restaurant that did that.

    Remember, those buildings had been around years, even decades, before the issue came up, and unless they were stand-alone buildings, they probably didn't even have the choice. And even if they did, they probably wouldn't. To redesign an entire ventilation system would've cost five-figures easily, which most independant eateries couldn't afford.

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  • From fusion@VERT/CFBBS to Mortar on Thursday, January 29, 2026 16:35:00
    On 29 Jan 2026, Mortar said the following...

    Re: Re: Bbsing
    By: Nightfox to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu Jan 29 2026 11:16:55

    I agree, it didn't really make a difference. I'd think they would have ventilated the smoking section and design it to pull the smoke out, but wasn't the case. At least, I don't recall ever seeing a restaurant that that.

    Remember, those buildings had been around years, even decades, before
    the issue came up, and unless they were stand-alone buildings, they probably didn't even have the choice. And even if they did, they
    probably wouldn't. To redesign an entire ventilation system would've
    cost five-figures easily, which most independant eateries couldn't
    afford.

    yeah there was one bar in town here, maybe a couple years before the indoor smoking ban, that had a *fantastic* ventilation system just for that. some company designs equipment specifically to clear out cigarette smoke as fast as possible. the bar made a big stink (heh) about it.

    but, most importantly, they started from a completely gutted building, so they didn't have to retrofit anything. didn't stay open long though.. a crummy bar is still a crummy bar ;)

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  • From MIKE POWELL@VERT/CAPCITY2/UUMOES to GAMGEE on Thursday, January 29, 2026 08:08:00
    Yes, I remember people smoking in restaurants for sure, and there was
    even a "smoking section" on airplanes. Ridiculous, since the smoke
    spread throughout the plane anyway. Glad that's gone.

    If you were in a big town in Kentucky, chances are that smoking area in
    the restaurant was a small, enclosed area. In most other parts of
    Kentucky, the non-smoking area was the small, enclosed area. ;)

    I can remember it being that way up until they banned smoking in
    restaurants statewide, sometime well into the 2000s.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to fusion on Thursday, January 29, 2026 16:20:54
    Re: Re: Bbsing
    By: fusion to Mortar on Thu Jan 29 2026 04:35 pm

    yeah there was one bar in town here, maybe a couple years before the indoor smoking ban, that had a *fantastic* ventilation system just for that. some company designs equipment specifically to clear out cigarette smoke as fast as possible. the bar made a big stink (heh) about it.

    There was a cigar bar that had an upstairs smoking bar, glassed in, with a great extraction system running - I joked that it was enough to make the ash on a cigar glow from the airflow.

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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to Nightfox on Thursday, January 29, 2026 23:03:31
    Re: Re: Bbsing
    By: Nightfox to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu Jan 29 2026 11:16 am

    I think '95 in Nashville was the last time I saw a smoking section
    in a restaurant. I was seated adjacent to it, in the non-smoking
    section. You're right, it didn't make a difference.

    I agree, it didn't really make a difference. I'd think they would have ventilated the smoking section and design it to pull the smoke out, but that wasn't the case. At least, I don't recall ever seeing a restaurant that did that. But although that might have helped a bit, it might not have completely drawn all the smoke out anyway..

    yep you'd get the full on 2nd hand smoke experience.
    The worst is going to a bar, you get the stale smoke, stale Beer, Puke, and piss smells all in one shot, made me sick, I left and have never been in a bar since.

    Denn

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANTIR to Denn on Friday, January 30, 2026 08:03:08
    Denn wrote to Nightfox <=-

    I think '95 in Nashville was the last time I saw a smoking section
    in a restaurant. I was seated adjacent to it, in the non-smoking
    section. You're right, it didn't make a difference.

    I agree, it didn't really make a difference. I'd think they would have ventilated the smoking section and design it to pull the smoke out, but that wasn't the case. At least, I don't recall ever seeing a restaurant that did that. But although that might have helped a bit, it might not have completely drawn all the smoke out anyway..

    yep you'd get the full on 2nd hand smoke experience.
    The worst is going to a bar, you get the stale smoke, stale Beer,
    Puke, and piss smells all in one shot, made me sick, I left and have
    never been in a bar since.

    SMELLS LIKE *VICTORY* !!




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  • From MIKE POWELL@VERT/CAPCITY2/UUMOES to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Friday, January 30, 2026 08:19:00
    Have you never bought Beer or cigarette's at a gas station?

    No.

    When I was of the age to start drinking, I am not certain that there were
    many "filling stations" that sold alcohol yet. There was a Convenient
    store nearby, but that one didn't have gas pumps. There were some
    SuperAmerica stations that had stores, too.

    IIRC just about all of them did sell cigarettes but, as I didn't smoke, I didn't buy any.

    Nowadays, it would be odd if someone who drank beer never bought at such a place as just about all of the stations have some sort of small store
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  • From MIKE POWELL@VERT/CAPCITY2/UUMOES to NIGHTFOX on Friday, January 30, 2026 08:26:00
    I agree, it didn't really make a difference. I'd think they would have ventilated the smoking section and design it to pull the smoke out, but that wasn't the case. At least, I don't recall ever seeing a restaurant that did that. But although that might have helped a bit, it might not have completel drawn all the smoke out anyway..

    Here, in later years, some of the fast food places had sections that were "walled off" with plexiglass (??), usually off in a corner. That seemed
    to help.

    As I pointed out in another message, depending on where you were in the
    state, it might turn out that the small, walled-off area was the
    non-smoking section as so many people in those areas smoked.
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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Denn on Saturday, January 31, 2026 08:35:50
    Denn wrote to Nightfox <=-

    yep you'd get the full on 2nd hand smoke experience.
    The worst is going to a bar, you get the stale smoke, stale Beer,
    Puke, and piss smells all in one shot, made me sick, I left and have
    never been in a bar since.

    I've never returned to a bar with the last two smells, but I have a soft
    spot for that Dive Bar smell of the first two.

    I used to love going to London pubs, hated coming home and opening up my suitcase to everything smelling like smoke.



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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to MIKE POWELL on Saturday, January 31, 2026 08:35:50
    MIKE POWELL wrote to NIGHTFOX <=-

    Here, in later years, some of the fast food places had sections that
    were "walled off" with plexiglass (??), usually off in a corner. That seemed to help.

    There was a Burger King in San Carlos, CA, near a municipal airport.
    There was a private dining room in the center of the restaurant with a
    keypad lock - the combination was the SC ground frequency.

    That was all well and good until the local tech.geeks got internet
    access and could look up the freq.




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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANTIR to MIKE POWELL on Saturday, January 31, 2026 13:12:49
    Re: Re: Bbsing
    By: MIKE POWELL to FUSION on Sun Jan 25 2026 09:19 am

    colored hair.

    Which game is this?

    Pathways.

    "A short PSA-like online browser game created by Shout Out UK (SOUK) in 2023. It gained notoriety in early 2026 when various media entities discovered it. The far-right extremist character, Amelia, quickly became the most popular of the characters in the game."

    https://donmai.moe/wiki_pages/pathways_(game)

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