• World Series

    From Special K@VERT/CYBERBBS to All on Tuesday, October 22, 2019 19:33:13
    Anybody watching the series? Nats fans / Astros fans?

    Pretty big Nats fan myself - lived in D.C. for a number of years and love the team, the games, and Nats Park.

    Special K

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Special K on Tuesday, October 22, 2019 22:59:03
    Re: World Series
    By: Special K to All on Tue Oct 22 2019 07:33 pm

    Anybody watching the series? Nats fans / Astros fans?

    I'm watching. Did anyone else notice the low video quality from a couple of the camera angles (on FOX)?

    I'm an Angels fan, but I'm sort of rooting for the Astros.

    digital man

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  • From Special K@VERT/CYBERBBS to Digital Man on Wednesday, October 23, 2019 08:20:03
    Re: World Series
    By: Digital Man to Special K on Tue Oct 22 2019 22:59:03

    I'm watching. Did anyone else notice the low video quality from a couple of the camera angles (on FOX)?

    So I've wondered about this - essentially the compromise between stream quality vs fidelity - like where the networks have the sweet-spot. I might be crazy, but I feel like HD level quality has gone down over the years. I remember some things when 1080p started to become availible with a few channels - like being able to make out fine details on the field during a sports game(crumples of paper, turf divots, etc.). Now, even thought the picture is much better than pre-HDTV days, I feel like resolution has been scaled back.

    But yes, I did notice that. Also, I don't like Fox's prodcution of the WS - Joe Buck is too generic for me. I want Romo-level commentary and analysis.

    Special K

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Special K on Wednesday, October 23, 2019 09:27:15
    Re: World Series
    By: Special K to Digital Man on Wed Oct 23 2019 08:20 am

    So I've wondered about this - essentially the compromise between stream quality vs fidelity - like where the networks have the sweet-spot. I might be crazy, but I feel like HD level quality has gone down over the years. I remember some things when 1080p started to become availible with a few channels - like being able to make out fine details on the field during a sports game(crumples of paper, turf divots, etc.). Now, even thought the picture is much better than pre-HDTV days, I feel like resolution has been scaled back.

    I have over-the-air TV, and last time I checked, it seemed pretty much all channels were broadcasting only 720p. I don't think I've seen a channel where I am brodcasting 1080, but it has been a while since I checked a channel's info on my TV. I believe there's a resolution limit to what they can broadcast digitally over the air, but I don't remember what that limit is.

    Nightfox

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Special K on Wednesday, October 23, 2019 11:04:50
    Re: World Series
    By: Special K to Digital Man on Wed Oct 23 2019 08:20 am

    Re: World Series
    By: Digital Man to Special K on Tue Oct 22 2019 22:59:03

    I'm watching. Did anyone else notice the low video quality from a couple of the camera angles (on FOX)?

    So I've wondered about this - essentially the compromise between stream quality vs fidelity - like where the networks have the sweet-spot. I might be crazy, but I feel like HD level quality has gone down over the years. I remember some things when 1080p started to become availible with a few channels - like being able to make out fine details on the field during a sports game(crumples of paper, turf divots, etc.). Now, even thought the picture is much better than pre-HDTV days, I feel like resolution has been scaled back.

    It's weird though how only a few of the camera angles have that overly-compressed/pixelated look though. The primary camera angles (e.g. from the outfield camera, over the pitcher) don't have any problem. I don't get it. I've watched a lot of Astros games this year (e.g. against the Angels) and those broadcasts (usually over FOX Sports West) did not have this issue.

    But yes, I did notice that. Also, I don't like Fox's prodcution of the WS - Joe Buck is too generic for me. I want Romo-level commentary and analysis.

    I'm used to the commentary style from watching a lot of national baseball over the years, so I have no problem with the (mostly) unbiased FOX announcers.

    digital man

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  • From Grease@VERT/DARKMATT to Special K on Wednesday, October 23, 2019 10:36:00
    Special K wrote to All <=-

    Anybody watching the series? Nats fans / Astros fans?
    Pretty big Nats fan myself - lived in D.C. for a number of years and
    love the team, the games, and Nats Park.

    Looks like I'm gonna have to not like you much this next week and a half.
    Haha. I sure wis Gerritt had his bad game back in July or something. 19
    in a row didn't mean much last night. Andthe 8 times we had bases loaded
    with two outs, one more hit wouldn't hurt.

    Soto was a killer last night.

    It's going to be a good series, though. I still believe my 'Stros will
    take it in six.

    Grease
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to NIGHTFOX on Thursday, October 24, 2019 18:48:00
    I have over-the-air TV, and last time I checked, it seemed pretty much all chan
    els were broadcasting only 720p. I don't think I've seen a channel where I am >rodcasting 1080, but it has been a while since I checked a channel's info on my
    TV. I believe there's a resolution limit to what they can broadcast digitally >ver the air, but I don't remember what that limit is.

    Yeah, pretty much all of our "local" stations are in 720p (the ones from Lexington). A few from Louisville are 1080, I think. On the local cable,
    the 720p OTA stations are 720p there, too... the 1080 stations are all
    1080i, both OTA and cable networks. I think that must be a limitation of
    the cable company or their equipment. I don't notice much of a difference unless I am trying to watch football or indycar, and that difference really went away when my first HD TV died. The replacement is not as large or
    fancy, so it all looks pretty much the same and not really all that bad. I sometimes think the fancier TVs make the differences more apparent and, by doing so, make things look worse than they would otherwise.

    I am not sure this is right (anymore) but it seems to be like some of the
    ones that were on 720p on their primary were also broadcasting a subchannel
    in HD also, and it was also 720p. I wondered if broadcasing a subchannel
    in HD put any limitations on the "bandwidth" available for the primary
    channel, which caused it to also be limted to 720p.

    One of the local stations was doing that with their sub because they would broadcast some extra hours of news on that station. The sub was
    otherwise broadcasting older shows that were filmed before HD became a
    thing. The quality was still better on those older shows because they did
    not "center cut" the sub.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Dumas Walker on Thursday, October 24, 2019 16:11:52
    Re: World Series
    By: Dumas Walker to NIGHTFOX on Thu Oct 24 2019 06:48 pm

    Yeah, pretty much all of our "local" stations are in 720p (the ones from Lexington). A few from Louisville are 1080, I think. On the local cable, the 720p OTA stations are 720p there, too... the 1080 stations are all 1080i, both OTA and cable networks. I think that must be a limitation of the cable company or their equipment. I don't notice much of a difference unless I am trying to watch football or indycar, and that difference really went away when my first HD TV died. The replacement is not as large or fancy, so it all looks pretty much the same and not really all that bad. I sometimes think the fancier TVs make the differences more apparent and, by doing so, make things look worse than they would otherwise.

    Yeah, one instance is where a higher-resolution screen might show some flaws that might not be as visible in a lower-resolution screen. Some of it might be artifacts of upscaling though (i.e., a 480p video looks good on an older CRT but might look a little fuzzy when upscaled on a 4K TV).

    Nightfox

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  • From Special K@VERT/CYBERBBS to Nightfox on Friday, October 25, 2019 08:36:50
    Re: World Series
    By: Nightfox to Dumas Walker on Thu Oct 24 2019 16:11:52

    Yeah, pretty much all of our "local" stations are in 720p (the ones from Lexington). A few from Louisville are 1080, I think. On the local cable, the 720p OTA stations are 720p there, too... the 1080 stations are all 1080i, both OTA and cable networks. I think that must be a limitation of the cable company or their equipment. I don't notice much of a difference unless I am trying to watch football or indycar, and that difference really went away when my first HD TV died. The replacement is not as large or fancy, so it all looks pretty much the same and not really all that bad. I sometimes think the fancier TVs make the differences more apparent and, by doing so, make things look worse than they would otherwise.

    Yeah, one instance is where a higher-resolution screen might show some flaws that might not be as visible in a lower-resolution screen. Some of it might be artifacts of upscaling though (i.e., a 480p video looks good on an older CRT but might look a little fuzzy when upscaled on a 4K TV).

    Nightfox

    The TV I have now is a 50inch Sony that came with a blue ray player and surround speakers / sub. I bought it in 2010 when I moved back to the States from Japan. I really don't want to ever have to buy a new one, though I know that's unrealistic. The best part of my TV is that it doesn't connect to the internet or have any of the new "smart" features or any of the artificial signal processing that newer TV's have.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Special K on Friday, October 25, 2019 09:41:50
    Re: World Series
    By: Special K to Nightfox on Fri Oct 25 2019 08:36 am

    The TV I have now is a 50inch Sony that came with a blue ray player and surround speakers / sub. I bought it in 2010 when I moved back to the States from Japan. I really don't want to ever have to buy a new one, though I know that's unrealistic. The best part of my TV is that it doesn't connect to the internet or have any of the new "smart" features or any of the artificial signal processing that newer TV's have.

    So you like the non-smart TVs?
    I actually like the smart features and internet connectivity that current TVs have. Sometimes I like to watch streaming content from Netflix or Amazon Prime video, etc. There's even some interesting content on YouTube, and I think being able to stream YouTube on a TV has made it even easier to watch (although my computer chair is comfortable, our TV chairs and couch are even more comfortable), and sometimes it's nice to be able to watch that stuff on a bigger screen too.

    Also, the 'smart' functionality allows things like being able to stream videos & music from a home server (such as Plex) without having to use a disc or plug in a USB drive.

    Nightfox

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