What mailer and frontend do people use who have bbs software without it built-in? Right now I'm running fastecho and irex, but it's started to not send routed netmail. I'd like some alternatives, but I don't know what all
is available. I'm hoping binkd and fmail, but I don't know for sure.

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Hello Shurato,

16 Sep 24 21:27, you wrote to All:

What mailer and frontend do people use who have bbs software without
it built-in? Right now I'm running fastecho and irex, but it's
started to not send routed netmail. I'd like some alternatives, but I don't know what all is available. I'm hoping binkd and fmail, but I
don't know for sure.

forget irexx as its buggy as hell as i know

i am using binkd as the industrial standard, but i have xenia mailer set up on the telnet port as well.

if in doubt, use binkd. binkd is your friend.

Regards,
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On 16 Sep 2024, Shurato said the following...

What mailer and frontend do people use who have bbs software without it built-in? Right now I'm running fastecho and irex, but it's started to not send routed netmail. I'd like some alternatives, but I don't know what all is available. I'm hoping binkd and fmail, but I don't know for sure.

I've used both FastEcho & hpt with binkd on my Telegard setup. Both work well with binkd.

You can find Windows binaries for binkd here:

http://download.binkd.org/win/

Look for the files beginning with: binkd11a115-

Find one that will work for the version of Windows you're running it on. I'm using the msvc10-4gb one with my Win 10 32bit install.

Here's the binkd config I'm using with my Telegard setup:

https://nrbbs.net/binkd.txt


Jay

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Hello Shurato,

16 Sep 24 21:27, you wrote to All:

What mailer and frontend do people use who have bbs software without
it built-in? Right now I'm running fastecho and irex, but it's
started to not send routed netmail. I'd like some alternatives, but I don't know what all is available. I'm hoping binkd and fmail, but I don't know for sure.

forget irexx as its buggy as hell as i know

i am using binkd as the industrial standard, but i have xenia mailer set up on the telnet port as well.

if in doubt, use binkd. binkd is your friend.

Forgot to mention, Win32.

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*** THE READER V4.50 [freeware]
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On 16 Sep 2024, Shurato said the following...

What mailer and frontend do people use who have bbs software without

it

built-in? Right now I'm running fastecho and irex, but it's started

to

not send routed netmail. I'd like some alternatives, but I don't

know

what all is available. I'm hoping binkd and fmail, but I don't know

for

sure.

I've used both FastEcho & hpt with binkd on my Telegard setup. Both work well with binkd.

You can find Windows binaries for binkd here:

http://download.binkd.org/win/

Look for the files beginning with: binkd11a115-

Find one that will work for the version of Windows you're running it on. I'm using the msvc10-4gb one with my Win 10 32bit install.

Here's the binkd config I'm using with my Telegard setup:

https://nrbbs.net/binkd.txt

I looked at that, but didn't see any config for netmail, only echomail. I'm trying to use the same version you are. Netmail is the whole reason for me switching away from irex and fastecho... It won't route.

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*** THE READER V4.50 [freeware]
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Here's the binkd config I'm using with my Telegard setup:

https://nrbbs.net/binkd.txt

I looked at that, but didn't see any config for netmail, only echomail. I'm trying to use the same version you are. Netmail is the whole reason for me switching away from irex and fastecho... It won't route.

binkd doesn't really care about net vs. echomail. It is for making the connection. How your netmail routes would be a function of your tosser.


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On 16 Sep 2024, Shurato said the following...

What mailer and frontend do people use who have bbs software without it built-in? Right now I'm running fastecho and irex, but it's started to not send routed netmail. I'd like some alternatives, but I don't know what all is available. I'm hoping binkd and fmail, but I don't know for sure.

On my Mystic I of course use the built in, I also run a C-Net Amiga BBS, which although has a built in Tosser I use BinkD as the front end. I run the C-Net in Emulation and use BinkD on the DOS side, it connects uploads and downloads, then a Amiga script file copies the files from the DOS side to the Amiga side and it tosses the files.. BinkD is very simple to set up and just works..


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On 16 Sep 2024, Shurato said the following...

What mailer and frontend do people use who have bbs software without

it

built-in? Right now I'm running fastecho and irex, but it's started

to

not send routed netmail. I'd like some alternatives, but I don't

know

what all is available. I'm hoping binkd and fmail, but I don't know

for

sure.

I've used both FastEcho & hpt with binkd on my Telegard setup. Both work well with binkd.

You can find Windows binaries for binkd here:

http://download.binkd.org/win/

Look for the files beginning with: binkd11a115-

Find one that will work for the version of Windows you're running it on. I'm using the msvc10-4gb one with my Win 10 32bit install.

Here's the binkd config I'm using with my Telegard setup:

https://nrbbs.net/binkd.txt

I looked at that and couldn't figure out what directory on my end would
equate with your echomail directories. the fbox directories were clear, but
I don't have fileboxes with most of my networks, so I don't know what to put
in case there isn't a directory. This is confusing.

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*** THE READER V4.50 [freeware]
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On Thu, Sep 26 18:31:00 -0500, you wrote:

I looked at that and couldn't figure out what directory on my end
would equate with your echomail directories. the fbox directories
were clear, but I don't have fileboxes with most of my networks, so
I don't know what to put in case there isn't a directory. This is confusing.

Try nothing.

I don't think the fbox/mbox whatever directories need anything when they're not used. However, if you were to skip something like the 'password' field you would have to put a single dash "-" in it's place.

HTH.

Regards,
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On Thu, Sep 26 18:31:00 -0500, you wrote:

I looked at that and couldn't figure out what directory on my end
would equate with your echomail directories. the fbox directories
were clear, but I don't have fileboxes with most of my networks, so I don't know what to put in case there isn't a directory. This is confusing.

Try nothing.

I don't think the fbox/mbox whatever directories need anything when they're not used. However, if you were to skip something like the 'password' field you would have to put a single dash "-" in it's place.

Thanks, I'll do that. What is the directory in the first set of node numbers for? Outbound? The example I have has echomail as the mail directory name
and that didn't tell me what the directory was for.

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On 26 Sep 2024, Shurato said the following...

I looked at that and couldn't figure out what directory on my end would equate with your echomail directories. the fbox directories were clear, but I don't have fileboxes with most of my networks, so I don't know
what to put in case there isn't a directory. This is confusing.

If you're not using fileboxes you can simply do something like this:

node 1:229/664@fidonet hub.nrbbs.net <password>

For inbound echomail directory it's:

inbound c:\\telegard\\echomail\\in

Outbound you specify per ftn domain:

domain fidonet c:\\telegard\\echomail\\out 1
domain fsxnet c:\\telegard\\echomail\\out 1
domain micronet c:\\telegard\\echomail\\out 1

(use the same "zone" for each outbound).

In FastEcho's FESETUP.EXE you'd set "System -> Pathnames" Inbound & Outbound to the same values (don't use double backslashes (\\) FastEcho) & under "System -> Miscellaneous" set Mailer to "Binkey/Xenia".

https://ibb.co/5RqB3y5
https://ibb.co/2vwLz8b


Jay

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On Saturday September 28 2024, Shurato said the following...

Try nothing.

I don't think the fbox/mbox whatever directories need anything
when they're not used. However, if you were to skip something
like the 'password' field you would have to put a single dash "-"
in it's place.

Thanks, I'll do that. What is the directory in the first set of node numbers for? Outbound? The example I have has echomail as the mail directory name and that didn't tell me what the directory was for.

Weird, I don't see Ascension's original message here, just Shurato's reply to it.


Jay

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Re: Re: Mailer and front end...
By: Warpslide to All on Sun Sep 29 2024 08:08 am

Howdy,

Weird, I don't see Ascension's original message here, just Shurato's reply to it.

Yeah, it doesnt look like Hub 3 has that message, but my BBS does (2/116).

It looks like it will be related to Hub 1 sending me zero sized files, and clrghouz rejecting them (SKIP). I musnt be sending the skip correctly as the connection is dropping soon after.

I'll have a play today to see if I can fix it.


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Re: Re: Mailer and front end...
By: deon to Warpslide on Mon Sep 30 2024 08:37 am

Howdy,

It looks like it will be related to Hub 1 sending me zero sized files, and clrghouz rejecting them (SKIP). I musnt be sending the skip correctly as the connection is dropping soon after.

OK, looks like I fixed it. A bunch of mail came in.. :)


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Can I have 5D domains in binkd? I've got 2 domains with the zone of 10 (League10 had it first, but Araknet is more popular) and have been using 2 instances of irex to get around that with one using fastecho and one using gecho. I think I just need to set iport or oport in binkd to specify a different port number. I'd guess one is mine and one is remote, but I'm not sure which is which.

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*** THE READER V4.50 [freeware]
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What should I have in exec "start /min etc..." for fastecho? I tried to
start a batch file that irex runs (between.bat) to run all of fastecho's
tasks, but got an error that the exec command wasn't correct.

I've got:
exec "@start /min c:\\ele\\irex\\between.bat"

I pasted that, so no typos. The file definitely exists... I've been using
it for years, but not with the double slashes that binkd requires.

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*** THE READER V4.50 [freeware]
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On 30 Sep 2024, deon said the following...

It looks like it will be related to Hub 1 sending me zero sized files, clrghouz rejecting them (SKIP). I musnt be sending the skip correctly a connection is dropping soon after.

OK, looks like I fixed it. A bunch of mail came in.. :)

Yup, I see Accession's message here now along with a discussion about OS/2 & Renegade.

Thank you sir, always appreciate your work! :)


Jay

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On 29 Sep 2024, Shurato said the following...

What should I have in exec "start /min etc..." for fastecho? I tried to start a batch file that irex runs (between.bat) to run all of fastecho's tasks, but got an error that the exec command wasn't correct.

I've got:
exec "@start /min c:\\ele\\irex\\between.bat"

It looks like you're missing the *.<extension> at the end. Try:

exec "@start /min c:\\ele\\irex\\between.bat" *.pkt
exec "@start /min c:\\ele\\irex\\between.bat" *.[mwtfs][oehrau][0-9a-zA-Z]


Jay

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On 29 Sep 2024, Shurato said the following...

Can I have 5D domains in binkd? I've got 2 domains with the zone of 10 (League10 had it first, but Araknet is more popular) and have been using
2 instances of irex to get around that with one using fastecho and one using gecho.

I'm not really sure how to answer this one. I know you can specify domains for each address, but I've not played around with two different networks using the same zone number.

Hopefully someone else can chime in.


Jay

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* In a message originally to Shurato, Warpslide said:

On 29 Sep 2024, Shurato said the following...

What should I have in exec "start /min etc..." for fastecho? I tried

to

start a batch file that irex runs (between.bat) to run all of

fastecho's

tasks, but got an error that the exec command wasn't correct.

I've got: exec "@start /min c:\\ele\\irex\\between.bat"

It looks like you're missing the *.<extension> at the end. Try:

exec "@start /min c:\\ele\\irex\\between.bat" *.pkt exec "@start
/min c:\\ele\\irex\\between.bat" *.[mwtfs][oehrau][0-9a-zA-Z]

I did see that, but I'm not using that. I guess it ciuld just be ignored.

Jay

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Hello Shurato!

29 Sep 24 20:44, you wrote to Warpslide:

I've got: exec "@start /min c:\\ele\\irex\\between.bat"

It looks like you're missing the *.<extension> at the end. Try:

exec "@start /min c:\\ele\\irex\\between.bat" *.pkt exec "@start
/min c:\\ele\\irex\\between.bat" *.[mwtfs][oehrau][0-9a-zA-Z]

I did see that, but I'm not using that. I guess it ciuld just be
ignored.

If you want binkd to fire off your script then what warpslide posted is correct.


This is what is on my linux system:

exec "/home/husky/hpt-copy.sh" /home/husky/inbound.sec/*.[0-9A-Za-z] *.[pP][kK][tT]


First is the path to the script, and must be in quotes ( " " ) then the dir that binkd looks in, followd by the file name patterns to look for



Vorlon


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Can I have 5D domains in binkd? I've got 2 domains with the zone of 10 (League10 had it first, but Araknet is more popular) and have been using 2 instances of irex to get around that with one using fastecho and one using gecho. I think I just need to set iport or oport in binkd to specify a different port number. I'd guess one is mine and one is remote, but I'm not sure which is which.

I think what you are suggesting might be possible, but I do think it would require you to run two instances of binkd, each with its own config file
with each answering on a different port and (probably) using a different in/outbound directory structure (i.e. one moving mail to/from fastecho, and
one moving mail to/from gecho).

I have two binkd instances running on the same machine doing something similar to this. In my case, it is because one is handling the mail for my
synchronet board, while the other is handling the mail for my dos bbs. Since they are both configured to use different ports and different in/out directories, it works!


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Hello Shurato!

29 Sep 24 20:44, you wrote to Warpslide:

I've got: exec "@start /min c:\\ele\\irex\\between.bat"

It looks like you're missing the *.<extension> at the end. Try:

exec "@start /min c:\\ele\\irex\\between.bat" *.pkt exec "@start /min >> c:\\ele\\irex\\between.bat" *.[mwtfs][oehrau][0-9a-zA-Z]

I did see that, but I'm not using that. I guess it ciuld just be ignored.

If you want binkd to fire off your script then what warpslide posted is correct.

This is what is on my linux system:

exec "/home/husky/hpt-copy.sh" /home/husky/inbound.sec/*.[0-9A-Za-z] *.[pP][kK][tT]

First is the path to the script, and must be in quotes ( " " ) then the dir that binkd looks in, followd by the file name patterns to look for

I understand that, but I'm don't need to look for any file patterns, the executables in the batch file do that for me. I would think binkd would be flexible enough to not need something that isn't being used. I'll just bite the bullet and add *.pkt, even though it really won't do anything...

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Hello Shurato!

30 Sep 24 14:52, you wrote to me:

This is what is on my linux system:

exec "/home/husky/hpt-copy.sh"
/home/husky/inbound.sec/*.[0-9A-Za-z] *.[pP][kK][tT]

[...]

I understand that, but I'm don't need to look for any file patterns,
the executables in the batch file do that for me. I would think binkd would be flexible enough to not need something that isn't being used.
I'll just bite the bullet and add *.pkt, even though it really won't
do anything...

Binkd won't do anything at all if you don't give it a file mask to look for. When it finds that matching mask at the end of the session, it starts your script.
Nothing more nothing less.

It is then upto your script to do any fancy things.



Vorlon


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Hello Shurato!

30 Sep 24 14:52, you wrote to me:

This is what is on my linux system:

exec "/home/husky/hpt-copy.sh"
/home/husky/inbound.sec/*.[0-9A-Za-z] *.[pP][kK][tT]

[...]

I understand that, but I'm don't need to look for any file patterns,
the executables in the batch file do that for me. I would think binkd would be flexible enough to not need something that isn't being used.
I'll just bite the bullet and add *.pkt, even though it really won't
do anything...

Binkd won't do anything at all if you don't give it a file mask to look for.

That's the *.[0-9A-Za-z] *.[pP][kK][tT] part.

The *.[0-9A-Za-z] is looking for compressd packets, while the *.[pP][kK][tT] is looking for raw packets.

When it finds that matching mask at the end of the session, it starts your script.
Nothing more nothing less.



It is then upto your script to do any fancy things.



Vorlon


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Hello Shurato!

30 Sep 24 14:52, you wrote to me:

This is what is on my linux system:

exec "/home/husky/hpt-copy.sh" /home/husky/inbound.sec/*.[0-9A-Za-z] Vo>> *.[pP][kK][tT]

[...]

I understand that, but I'm don't need to look for any file patterns, the executables in the batch file do that for me. I would think

binkd

would be flexible enough to not need something that isn't being used. I'll just bite the bullet and add *.pkt, even though it really won't do anything...

Binkd won't do anything at all if you don't give it a file mask to look for.

That's the *.[0-9A-Za-z] *.[pP][kK][tT] part.

The *.[0-9A-Za-z] is looking for compressd packets, while the *.[pP][kK][tT] is looking for raw packets.

When it finds that matching mask at the end of the session, it starts your script. Nothing more nothing less.

Ok, I added the *.[mwtfs][oehrau][0-9a-zA-Z] to the end. We'll see if it runs. I didn't quite understand why that file name was needed, now I do!

It is then upto your script to do any fancy things.

Vorlon

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How do I poll periodically, then run between.bat? It's not happening automagically, only systems polling me are working and I'm on hold with
some networks so I have to run binkd -P 21:2/100 binkd.cfg to poll fsxnet,
then run between.bat manually.

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*** THE READER V4.50 [freeware]
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How do I poll periodically, then run between.bat? It's not happening automagically, only systems polling me are working and I'm on hold with some networks so I have to run binkd -P 21:2/100 binkd.cfg to poll fsxnet, then run between.bat manually.

The reason I need to do this is because my BBS can't run the mail tosser/scanner after someone sends a netmail/echomail. I have to run it on a schedule.

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*** THE READER V4.50 [freeware]
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How do I poll periodically, then run between.bat? It's not happening automagically, only systems polling me are working and I'm on hold with some networks so I have to run binkd -P 21:2/100 binkd.cfg to poll fsxnet, then run between.bat manually.

I added -P with all of the node numbers I'm using and -n to a scheduled event hourly. Is that good enough? I'm not sure if -n will do what I want, but I don't want a bunch of processes running and it seems to schedule them as needed.

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I have:
domain fidonet c:\\ele\\irex\\outbound 1 fidonet
domain Araknet c:\\ele\\irex\\outbound 10 Araknet
domain fsxnet c:\\ele\\irex\\outbound 21 fsxnet
domain micronet c:\\ele\\irex\\outbound 618 micronet
domain tqwnet c:\\ele\\irex\\outbound 1337 tqwnet
domain fu-net c:\\ele\\irex\\outbound 38 fu-net
domain sfnet c:\\ele\\irex\\outbound 42 sfnet
#domain league10 c:\\ele\\irex\\outbound 10 league10


Is that wrong? My outbound isn't working so I've temporarily gone back to irex...

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Hello Shurato!

02 Oct 24 15:56, you wrote to Warpslide:

domain fidonet c:\\ele\\irex\\outbound 1 fidonet
domain Araknet c:\\ele\\irex\\outbound 10 Araknet
domain fsxnet c:\\ele\\irex\\outbound 21 fsxnet
domain micronet c:\\ele\\irex\\outbound 618 micronet
domain tqwnet c:\\ele\\irex\\outbound 1337 tqwnet
domain fu-net c:\\ele\\irex\\outbound 38 fu-net
domain sfnet c:\\ele\\irex\\outbound 42 sfnet
#domain league10 c:\\ele\\irex\\outbound 10 league10

Is that wrong? My outbound isn't working so I've temporarily gone
back to irex...

Yes it is wrong (That always catches out people)...
You use the same zone number for all outbounds.

I'm on linux but the same applies:

domain fidonet /home/husky/outbound 3
domain amiganet /home/husky/outbound 3
domain agoranet /home/husky/outbound 3
domain fsxnet /home/husky/outbound 3

address 3:633/280@fidonet
address 3:633/0@fidonet
address 21:1/195@fsxnet
address 39:901/280@amiganet
address 39:901/0@amiganet
address 46:3/101@agoranet




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Hello Shurato!

01 Oct 24 22:45, you wrote to you:

How do I poll periodically, then run between.bat? It's not
happening automagically, only systems polling me are working and
I'm on hold with some networks so I have to run binkd -P 21:2/100
binkd.cfg to poll fsxnet, then run between.bat manually.

I added -P with all of the node numbers I'm using and -n to a
scheduled event hourly. Is that good enough? I'm not sure if -n will
do what I want, but I don't want a bunch of processes running and it
seems to schedule them as needed.

Setup some events in your os's cron/schedule system.

ie (Linux):

18 * * * * /home/husky/bin/binkd -p -P21:1/100 /opt/husky/etc/binkd.config
23 * * * * /home/husky/bin/binkd -p -P3:712/848 /opt/husky/etc/binkd.config
54 * * * * /home/husky/bin/binkd -p -P1:229/426 /opt/husky/etc/binkd.config
33 * * * * /home/husky/bin/binkd -p -P46:1/100 /opt/husky/etc/binkd.config
16 * * * * /home/husky/bin/binkd -p -P3:712/1321 /opt/husky/etc/binkd.config

Then in binkd.config ( 'c' on the end means crash, can also use 'i' for imediate)

node 21:1/100@fsxnet -md net1.fsxnet.nz:24556 password c
node 3:712/848@fidonet -md ftn.sysgod.org password i
node 39:39/0@amiganet -md fido.vlzn.nl password c



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Re: Mailer and front end...
By: Vorlon to Shurato on Thu Oct 03 2024 09:48 am

domain fidonet c:\\ele\\irex\\outbound 1 fidonet
domain Araknet c:\\ele\\irex\\outbound 10 Araknet
domain fsxnet c:\\ele\\irex\\outbound 21 fsxnet

Is that wrong? My outbound isn't working so I've temporarily gone
back to irex...

Yes it is wrong (That always catches out people)...
You use the same zone number for all outbounds.

It does catch out everybody, and yes it is wrong.

The number indicates what is the "primary" zone for that path (you have C:\\ele\\irex\\outbound), ie: so everything in that path is zone "x" (you have 1 for the first line). Anything in a path C:\\ele\\irex\\outbound.XXX will be for zone XXX (where XXX is the zone number in hex, so zone 21 will be 015).

So you decide what is your primary domain (most use fidonet) and if you are in zone 1 fidonet, then use "1" for *every* line. binkd will then know anything in a "outbound.XXX" is for the other zones. The mapping is done with the domain from the address, matched to the domain of the "domain":

domain amiganet /home/husky/outbound 3
...
address 39:901/0@amiganet

So binkd in this case will know that anything in outbound.027 is for amignet, and the zone is 39.

You'll need to make sure the "primary" for your mail tosser works a similar way and understands the same primary outbound dir.


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Hello Shurato!

02 Oct 24 15:56, you wrote to Warpslide:

domain fidonet c:\\ele\\irex\\outbound 1 fidonet domain Araknet c:\\ele\\irex\\outbound 10 Araknet domain fsxnet c:\\ele\\irex\\outbound 21 fsxnet domain micronet c:\\ele\\irex\\outbound 618 micronet domain tqwnet c:\\ele\\irex\\outbound 1337 tqwnet domain fu-net c:\\ele\\irex\\outbound 38 fu-net domain sfnet
c:\\ele\\irex\\outbound 42 sfnet #domain league10 c:\\ele\\irex\\outbound 10 league10

Is that wrong? My outbound isn't working so I've temporarily gone back to irex...

Yes it is wrong (That always catches out people)... You use the same
zone number for all outbounds.

I'm on linux but the same applies:

Ok, now I've got:

domain fidonet c:\\ele\\irex\\outbound 1
domain Araknet c:\\ele\\irex\\outbound 1
domain fsxnet c:\\ele\\irex\\outbound 1
domain micronet c:\\ele\\irex\\outbound 1
domain tqwnet c:\\ele\\irex\\outbound 1
domain fu-net c:\\ele\\irex\\outbound 1
domain sfnet c:\\ele\\irex\\outbound 1
#domain league10 c:\\ele\\irex\\outbound 1

address 1:340/1101@fidonet
address 10:103/31@Araknet
address 21:2/148@fsxnet
address 38:503/30@fu-net
address 42:12/1@sfnet
address 618:300/50@micronet
address 1337:3/185@tqwnet
#address 10:3/18@league10

Is that correct? I've got i for my hubs, but it never seems to send anything...

Should it send when polling, or only when polled? For my command line I'm using:

C:\ele\binkd\binkd.exe -s -c -T -P 1:340/400 -P 10:103/0 -P 21:1/10 -P
21:2/100 -P 38:503/1 -P 42:17/1 -P 618:300/1 -P 1337:3/100 -P 618:100/1 binkdall.cfg


Should I not be polling from there and using an event instead?

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Re: Mailer and front end...
By: Vorlon to Shurato on Thu Oct 03 2024 09:48 am

domain fidonet c:\\ele\\irex\\outbound 1 fidonet domain Araknet c:\\ele\\irex\\outbound 10 Araknet domain fsxnet c:\\ele\\irex\\outbound 21 fsxnet

Is that wrong? My outbound isn't working so I've temporarily gone back to irex...

Yes it is wrong (That always catches out people)... You use the same zone number for all outbounds.

It does catch out everybody, and yes it is wrong.

The number indicates what is the "primary" zone for that path (you have C:\\ele\\irex\\outbound), ie: so everything in that path is zone "x" (you have 1 for the first line). Anything in a path C:\\ele\\irex\\outbound.XXX will be for zone XXX (where XXX is the zone number in hex, so zone 21 will be 015).

So you decide what is your primary domain (most use fidonet) and if you are in zone 1 fidonet, then use "1" for *every* line. binkd will then know anything in a "outbound.XXX" is for the other zones. The mapping is done with the domain from the address, matched to the domain of the "domain":

domain amiganet /home/husky/outbound 3
...
address 39:901/0@amiganet

So binkd in this case will know that anything in outbound.027 is for amignet, and the zone is 39.

You'll need to make sure the "primary" for your mail tosser works a similar way and understands the same primary outbound dir.

My mail tosser uses domain.hex as the directory name, in the directory above the specified outbound directory. I've put zone 1 for everything now. I
think this is working, but I'm not positive.

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Re: Mailer and front end...
By: Vorlon to Shurato on Thu Oct 03 2024 09:48 am

domain fidonet c:\\ele\\irex\\outbound 1 fidonet domain Araknet c:\\ele\\irex\\outbound 10 Araknet domain fsxnet c:\\ele\\irex\\outbound 21 fsxnet

Is that wrong? My outbound isn't working so I've temporarily gone back to irex...

Yes it is wrong (That always catches out people)... You use the same zone number for all outbounds.

It does catch out everybody, and yes it is wrong.

The number indicates what is the "primary" zone for that path (you have C:\\ele\\irex\\outbound), ie: so everything in that path is zone "x" (you have 1 for the first line). Anything in a path C:\\ele\\irex\\outbound.XXX will be for zone XXX (where XXX is the zone number in hex, so zone 21 will be 015).

So you decide what is your primary domain (most use fidonet) and if you are in zone 1 fidonet, then use "1" for *every* line. binkd will then know anything in a "outbound.XXX" is for the other zones. The mapping is done with the domain from the address, matched to the domain of the "domain":

domain amiganet /home/husky/outbound 3
...
address 39:901/0@amiganet

I think I would need the name of the net in place of outbound in my case
then, right?

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Hello Shurato!

02 Oct 24 20:23, you wrote to me:

domain fidonet c:\\ele\\irex\\outbound 1
domain Araknet c:\\ele\\irex\\outbound 1
domain fsxnet c:\\ele\\irex\\outbound 1
domain micronet c:\\ele\\irex\\outbound 1
domain tqwnet c:\\ele\\irex\\outbound 1
domain fu-net c:\\ele\\irex\\outbound 1
domain sfnet c:\\ele\\irex\\outbound 1
#domain league10 c:\\ele\\irex\\outbound 1

address 1:340/1101@fidonet
address 10:103/31@Araknet
address 21:2/148@fsxnet
address 38:503/30@fu-net
address 42:12/1@sfnet
address 618:300/50@micronet
address 1337:3/185@tqwnet
#address 10:3/18@league10

Is that correct? I've got i for my hubs, but it never seems to send anything...

Yes that's correct.

Should it send when polling, or only when polled? For my command line
I'm using:

When binkp polls or receives it sends/receives anything in the outbound for the other system.
If there is nothing in the outbound, then of course it won't send anything.

C:\ele\binkd\binkd.exe -s -c -T -P 1:340/400 -P 10:103/0 -P 21:1/10 -P 21:2/100 -P 38:503/1 -P 42:17/1 -P 618:300/1 -P 1337:3/100 -P
618:100/1 binkdall.cfg

Use:

c:\\ele\binkd\binkd.exe -P 1:/340/400 c:\\ele\binkd\binkd\binkdall.cfg

Your using the server and client flags when polling, just drop them. ( -s -c ), only need the '-P' .

Don't know what the -T does (It's not in the linux version).

The -s flag is for running binkp all the time as your system server. so you need that for allowing systems to poll you (Say
someone wants to send you a direct netmail, or your uplink wants to be able to poll your system.



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Re: Mailer and front end...
By: Shurato to deon on Wed Oct 02 2024 09:22 pm

Howdy,

My mail tosser uses domain.hex as the directory name, in the directory above the specified outbound directory. I've put zone 1 for everything now. I think this is working, but I'm not positive.

OK, if your toss is using "domain.hex", then the instructions that vorlon and I are giving you are not appropriate, and they are for a different situation.

If your tosser is putting mail into a directory that has both the domain and hex name, eg: fsxnet.015, fidonet.001, amiganet.027, etc, then you *will* need to use the configuration that you originally had - but you need to use the correct directory with it.

ie: something like

domain fidonet c:\\ele\\irex\\outbound\\fidonet.001 1
domain Araknet c:\\ele\\irex\\outbound\\araknet.00a 10
domain fsxnet c:\\ele\\irex\\outbound\\fsxnet.015 21
domain micronet c:\\ele\\irex\\outbound\\micronet.26a 618

(I think anyway - I've never had a tosser that works this way).

The only problem when I can think of might be fidonet (since it uses zones 1-4), so you might need to have \\fidonet 32767, which should still see stuff for zone 1 in \\fidonet.001, and zone 3 \\fidonet.003, etc

If the above doesnt work correctly, then this might be better

domain fidonet c:\\ele\\irex\\outbound\\fidonet 32767
domain Araknet c:\\ele\\irex\\outbound\\araknet 32767
domain fsxnet c:\\ele\\irex\\outbound\\fsxnet 32767
domain micronet c:\\ele\\irex\\outbound\\micronet 32767

YMMV :)


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Re: Mailer and front end...
By: Shurato to deon on Wed Oct 02 2024 09:22 pm

Howdy,

My mail tosser uses domain.hex as the directory name, in the directory

above

the specified outbound directory. I've put zone 1 for everything now.

I

think this is working, but I'm not positive.

OK, if your toss is using "domain.hex", then the instructions that vorlon and I are giving you are not appropriate, and they are for a different situation.

If your tosser is putting mail into a directory that has both the domain and hex name, eg: fsxnet.015, fidonet.001, amiganet.027, etc, then you *will* need to use the configuration that you originally had - but you need to use the correct directory with it.

ie: something like

domain fidonet c:\\ele\\irex\\outbound\\fidonet.001 1 domain Araknet c:\\ele\\irex\\outbound\\araknet.00a 10 domain fsxnet c:\\ele\\irex\\outbound\\fsxnet.015 21 domain micronet c:\\ele\\irex\\outbound\\micronet.26a 618

(I think anyway - I've never had a tosser that works this way).

The only problem when I can think of might be fidonet (since it uses zones 1-4), so you might need to have \\fidonet 32767, which should still see stuff for zone 1 in \\fidonet.001, and zone 3 \\fidonet.003, etc

If the above doesnt work correctly, then this might be better

domain fidonet c:\\ele\\irex\\outbound\\fidonet 32767 domain Araknet c:\\ele\\irex\\outbound\\araknet 32767 domain fsxnet c:\\ele\\irex\\outbound\\fsxnet 32767 domain micronet c:\\ele\\irex\\outbound\\micronet 32767

YMMV :)

It's working! The only problem is that my exec command is not running when inbound packets are encountered. It was before, but I broke it some how. I could just schedule between.bat to run hourly.

exec "@start /min c:\\ele\\irex\\between.bat" c:\\ele\\irex\\inbound\\*.pkt exec "@start /min c:\\ele\\irex\\between.bat" c:\\ele\\irex\\inbound\\*.[mwtfs][oehrau][0-9a-zA-Z]

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Re: Mailer and front end...
By: Shurato to deon on Wed Oct 02 2024 09:22 pm

Howdy,

My mail tosser uses domain.hex as the directory name, in the

directory

above

the specified outbound directory. I've put zone 1 for everything

now.

I

think this is working, but I'm not positive.

OK, if your toss is using "domain.hex", then the instructions that

vorlon

and I are giving you are not appropriate, and they are for a

different

situation.

If your tosser is putting mail into a directory that has both the

domain

and hex name, eg: fsxnet.015, fidonet.001, amiganet.027, etc, then

you

*will* need to use the configuration that you originally had - but

you

need to use the correct directory with it.

ie: something like

domain fidonet c:\\ele\\irex\\outbound\\fidonet.001 1 domain Araknet c:\\ele\\irex\\outbound\\araknet.00a 10 domain fsxnet c:\\ele\\irex\\outbound\\fsxnet.015 21 domain micronet c:\\ele\\irex\\outbound\\micronet.26a 618

(I think anyway - I've never had a tosser that works this way).

The only problem when I can think of might be fidonet (since it uses

zones

1-4), so you might need to have \\fidonet 32767, which should still

see

stuff for zone 1 in \\fidonet.001, and zone 3 \\fidonet.003, etc

If the above doesnt work correctly, then this might be better

domain fidonet c:\\ele\\irex\\outbound\\fidonet 32767 domain Araknet c:\\ele\\irex\\outbound\\araknet 32767 domain fsxnet c:\\ele\\irex\\outbound\\fsxnet 32767 domain micronet c:\\ele\\irex\\outbound\\micronet 32767

YMMV :)

It's working! The only problem is that my exec command is not running when inbound packets are encountered. It was before, but I broke
it some how. I could just schedule between.bat to run hourly.

exec "@start /min c:\\ele\\irex\\between.bat" c:\\ele\\irex\\inbound\\*.pkt exec "@start /min c:\\ele\\irex\\between.bat" c:\\ele\\irex\\inbound\\*.[mwtfs][oehrau][0-9a-zA-Z]

I've got my delays set to 1h.

call-delay 1h
rescan-delay 1h

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Re: Mailer and front end...
By: Shurato to deon on Thu Oct 03 2024 06:26 am

Howdy,

It's working! The only problem is that my exec command is not running when inbound packets are encountered. It was before, but I broke it some how. I could just schedule between.bat to run hourly.

exec "@start /min c:\\ele\\irex\\between.bat" c:\\ele\\irex\\inbound\\*.pkt exec "@start /min c:\\ele\\irex\\between.bat" c:\\ele\\irex\\inbound\\*.[mwtfs][oehrau][0-9a-zA-Z]

Which config did you go with to get it to work? Might be useful to know for somebody else...

Your binkd log output will be useful to figure out why the exec isnt working. I'm going to guess its a case issue - which was suggested before, ie: you'll need to match *.pkt and *.PKT, and *.mo0 and *.MO0, etc


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Re: Mailer and front end... By: Shurato to deon on Thu Oct 03 2024
06:26 am

Howdy,

It's working! The only problem is that my exec command is not running

when

inbound packets are encountered. It was before, but I broke it some

how. I

could just schedule between.bat to run hourly.

exec "@start /min c:\\ele\\irex\\between.bat"

c:\\ele\\irex\\inbound\\*.pkt

exec "@start /min c:\\ele\\irex\\between.bat" c:\\ele\\irex\\inbound\\*.[mwtfs][oehrau][0-9a-zA-Z]

Which config did you go with to get it to work? Might be useful to know
for somebody else...

Your binkd log output will be useful to figure out why the exec isnt working. I'm going to guess its a case issue - which was suggested before, ie: you'll need to match *.pkt and *.PKT, and *.mo0 and *.MO0, etc

For binkd and fastecho:


domain fidonet c:\\ele\\irex\\fidonet 1
domain Araknet c:\\ele\\irex\\araknet 1
domain fsxnet c:\\ele\\irex\\fsxnet 1
domain micronet c:\\ele\\irex\\micronet 1
domain tqwnet c:\\ele\\irex\\tqwnet 1
domain fu-net c:\\ele\\irex\\fu-net 1
domain sfnet c:\\ele\\irex\\sfnet 1

I'm keeping my directory structure the same so I don't have to edit a bunch
of scripts. My filenames are in lower case as is the exec command. I'll
check the log.

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Your binkd log output will be useful to figure out why the exec isnt working. I'm going to guess its a case issue - which was suggested before, ie: you'll need to match *.pkt and *.PKT, and *.mo0 and *.MO0, etc

I checked it from the bottom up for "exec" and the last one was run Oct 1st.
No other entries. I have no idea why it's not running, the case checking is correct.

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Re: Mailer and front end...
By: Shurato to deon on Thu Oct 03 2024 02:10 pm

Howdy,

I checked it from the bottom up for "exec" and the last one was run Oct 1st. No other entries. I have no idea why it's not running, the case checking is correct.

If you provided a snippet from a session (where files were transferred), that would be helpful.

Not looking for the "exec" lines - looking for information about the received files so that we (I) can confirm your configuration looks appropriate.

You might need to up the debugging of binkd as well.


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Re: Mailer and front end... By: Shurato to deon on Thu Oct 03 2024
02:10 pm

Howdy,

I checked it from the bottom up for "exec" and the last one was run Oct

1st.

No other entries. I have no idea why it's not running, the case

checking is

correct.

If you provided a snippet from a session (where files were transferred), that would be helpful.

Not looking for the "exec" lines - looking for information about the received files so that we (I) can confirm your configuration looks appropriate.

You might need to up the debugging of binkd as well.

Ok, I'm heading back to bed, but later in the day I'll do that!

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Re: Mailer and front end...
By: Shurato to deon on Thu Oct 03 2024 02:10 pm

Howdy,

I checked it from the bottom up for "exec" and the last one was run Oct

1st.

No other entries. I have no idea why it's not running, the case

checking is

correct.

If you provided a snippet from a session (where files were transferred), that would be helpful.

Not looking for the "exec" lines - looking for information about the received files so that we (I) can confirm your configuration looks appropriate.

You might need to up the debugging of binkd as well.

+ 04 Oct 10:29:54 [4516] incoming session with 149.56.142.85
- 04 Oct 10:29:54 [4516] SYS tqwNet CA HUB
- 04 Oct 10:29:54 [4516] ZYZ MeaTLoTioN
- 04 Oct 10:29:54 [4516] TIME Fri, 04 Oct 2024 16:30:41 0000
- 04 Oct 10:29:54 [4516] VER Mystic/1.12A47 binkp/1.0
- 04 Oct 10:29:54 [4516] BUILD 2021/08/10 06:22:32 Linux/64
+ 04 Oct 10:29:54 [4516] addr: 1337:3/100@tqwnet
+ 04 Oct 10:29:54 [4516] addr: 1337:3/1@tqwnet
+ 04 Oct 10:29:54 [4516] addr: 1337:3/0@tqwnet
+ 04 Oct 10:29:54 [4516] pwd protected session (MD5)
- 04 Oct 10:29:54 [4516] QSIZE 1 files 3,748 bytes
- 04 Oct 10:29:54 [4516] receiving 0000ffab.fr3 (3748 byte(s), off 0)
+ 04 Oct 10:29:54 [4516] 0000ffab.fr3 -> c:\ele\irex\inbound\0000ffab.fr3
+ 04 Oct 10:29:54 [4516] rcvd: 0000ffab.fr3 (3748, 3748.00 CPS, 1337:3/100@tqwnet)
+ 04 Oct 10:29:54 [4516] done (from 1337:3/100@tqwnet, OK, S/R: 0/1 (0/3748 bytes))
04 Oct 10:29:54 [4516] session closed, quitting...



I'm looking for lowercase *.fr3.

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Re: Mailer and front end...
By: Shurato to deon on Fri Oct 04 2024 10:35 am

Howdy,

- 04 Oct 10:29:54 [4516] receiving 0000ffab.fr3 (3748 byte(s), off 0)
+ 04 Oct 10:29:54 [4516] 0000ffab.fr3 -> c:\ele\irex\inbound\0000ffab.fr3
+ 04 Oct 10:29:54 [4516] rcvd: 0000ffab.fr3 (3748, 3748.00 CPS, 1337:3/100@tqwnet)

I'm looking for lowercase *.fr3.

OK, you said your exec line was this:

exec "@start /min c:\\ele\\irex\\between.bat" *.pkt

You probably need to have this

exec "@start /min c:\\ele\\irex\\between.bat" c:\\ele\\irex\\inbound\\*.pkt

And it wouldnt hurt to have [pP][kK][tT] as you cant assume all mailers will send you lower case packets.


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Hello deon!

05 Oct 24 09:31, you wrote to Shurato:

- 04 Oct 10:29:54 [4516] receiving 0000ffab.fr3 (3748 byte(s), off
0) + 04 Oct 10:29:54 [4516] 0000ffab.fr3 ->
c:\ele\irex\inbound\0000ffab.fr3 + 04 Oct 10:29:54 [4516] rcvd:
0000ffab.fr3 (3748, 3748.00 CPS,
1337:3/100@tqwnet)

I'm looking for lowercase *.fr3.

OK, you said your exec line was this:

exec "@start /min c:\\ele\\irex\\between.bat" *.pkt

You probably need to have this

exec "@start /min c:\\ele\\irex\\between.bat" c:\\ele\\irex\\inbound\\*.pkt

And it wouldnt hurt to have [pP][kK][tT] as you cant assume all
mailers will send you lower case packets.

That message packet above is compressed. I have already posted a exec line that caters for both compressed packets and raw *.pkt
files.




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* In a message originally to Shurato, deon said:

Re: Mailer and front end... By: Shurato to deon on Fri Oct 04 2024
10:35 am

Howdy,

- 04 Oct 10:29:54 [4516] receiving 0000ffab.fr3 (3748 byte(s), off 0)
+ 04 Oct 10:29:54 [4516] 0000ffab.fr3 ->

c:\ele\irex\inbound\0000ffab.fr3

+ 04 Oct 10:29:54 [4516] rcvd: 0000ffab.fr3 (3748, 3748.00 CPS, 1337:3/100@tqwnet)

I'm looking for lowercase *.fr3.

OK, you said your exec line was this:

exec "@start /min c:\\ele\\irex\\between.bat" *.pkt

You probably need to have this

exec "@start /min c:\\ele\\irex\\between.bat"
c:\\ele\\irex\\inbound\\*.pkt

And it wouldnt hurt to have [pP][kK][tT] as you cant assume all mailers
will send you lower case packets.

They are:

exec "@start /min c:\\ele\\irex\\between.bat" c:\\ele\\irex\\inbound\\*.pkt exec "@start /min c:\\ele\\irex\\between.bat" c:\\ele\\irex\\inbound\\*.[mwtfs][oehrau][0-9a-zA-Z]

And everything is lower case coming in. I could set it for upper as well,
but so far I'm only getting *.[mwtfs][oehrau][0-9a-zA-Z] in lower case according to the logs.

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exec "@start /min c:\\ele\\irex\\between.bat" c:\\ele\\irex\\inbound\\*.pkt exec "@start /min c:\\ele\\irex\\between.bat" c:\\ele\\irex\\inbound\\*.[mwtfs][oehrau][0-9a-zA-Z]

Is the above 2 lines in your config file? It looks like 3 lines due to the BBS word wrapping but that last line needs to be after the stuff on the second line.

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exec "@start /min c:\\ele\\irex\\between.bat"

c:\\ele\\irex\\inbound\\*.pkt

exec "@start /min c:\\ele\\irex\\between.bat" c:\\ele\\irex\\inbound\\*.[mwtfs][oehrau][0-9a-zA-Z]

Is the above 2 lines in your config file? It looks like 3 lines due to the BBS word wrapping but that last line needs to be after the stuff on the second line.

Yeah, it's just 2 lines.

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On 04 Oct 2024, Shurato said the following...

And everything is lower case coming in. I could set it for upper as
well, but so far I'm only getting *.[mwtfs][oehrau][0-9a-zA-Z] in lower case according to the logs.

This is what I have configured:

*.[STFWMstfwm][ouaherOUAHER][0-9A-Za-z]
*.[pP][kK][tT]

When I first came back to the hobby I had one link and everything was coming in uppercase. As I connected with more people things started coming in either/or. Doesn't hurt to set it this way to future-proof yourself.

I also have another line for .tic files:

exec "/home/ubuntu/fido/filein.sh" *.[tT][iI][cC]


Jay

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Re: Mailer and front end...
By: Shurato to deon on Thu Oct 03 2024 06:26 am

It's working! The only problem is that my exec command is not running when inbound packets are encountered. It was before, but I broke it some how.

When you added the path portion, you added something which will never be a match to any inbound file.

Short version - Look at the example below and pay **VERY** close attention to the use of backslashes. The line wrapping is going to mangle the line:

exec "@start /min c:\\ele\\irex\\between.bat" c:\\\\ele\\\\irex\\\\inbound\\\\*.pkt

Pointlessly long version - The last parameter here is a regular expression, not a filename mask. The backslash character is used as an escape character both when reading the configuration file and when performing the regex matching. So this original parameter in the BinkD config file:

c:\\ele\\irex\\inbound\\*.pkt

Gets escaped down to this when the config file is parsed:

c:\ele\irex\inbound\*.pkt

And when escaped the second time during the regex evalution, it becomes this:

c:eleirexinbound*.pkt

That is a literal string without any wildcards. You need the additional backslashes so the parameter gets passed to the regex function with the backslashes escaped.

\\\\ -> \\ -> \

Also, the regular expressions for the flag/exec parameters haven't been case sensitive for a while now (20+ years) so there's no point accounting for upper and lower case in them...
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Re: Mailer and front end...
By: Shurato to Shurato on Thu Oct 03 2024 06:27 am

I've got my delays set to 1h.

call-delay 1h
rescan-delay 1h

Why would you do this? Even for a super-busy mail hub a 1 hour rescan delay would be quite excessive. A 1 hour call delay on top of that also makes little sense.
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On 04 Oct 2024, Shurato said the following...

And everything is lower case coming in. I could set it for upper as well, but so far I'm only getting *.[mwtfs][oehrau][0-9a-zA-Z] in

lower

case according to the logs.

This is what I have configured:

*.[STFWMstfwm][ouaherOUAHER][0-9A-Za-z] *.[pP][kK][tT]

When I first came back to the hobby I had one link and everything was coming in uppercase. As I connected with more people things started coming in either/or. Doesn't hurt to set it this way to future-proof yourself.

I also have another line for .tic files:

exec "/home/ubuntu/fido/filein.sh" *.[tT][iI][cC]

I'll set that up. I don't see it making exec commands run though, all of my nodes are sending lower case file names right now.

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On 05 Oct 2024, Shurato said the following...

I'll set that up. I don't see it making exec commands run though, all
of my nodes are sending lower case file names right now.

Have you tried not putting the path in? e.g.

exec "@start /min c:\\ele\\irex\\between.bat" *.[pP][kK][tT]
exec "@start /min c:\\ele\\irex\\between.bat" *.[STFWMstfwm][ouaherOUAHER][0-9A-Za-z]

That's what I have setup on Windows/Telegard and it works here:

- 12 Jan 23:16:56 [7368] receiving a20eaa00.pkt (1794 byte(s), off 0)
+ 12 Jan 23:16:56 [7368] a20eaa00.pkt -> c:\telegard\echomail\in\a20eaa00.pkt
12 Jan 23:16:56 [7368] got *.pkt, delayed starting @start /min c:\telegard\husky\mailin.bat
+ 12 Jan 23:16:368] rcvd: a20eaa00.pkt (1794, 1794.00 CPS, 1:12/0@fidonet)
+ 12 Jan 23:16:56 [7368] done (to 21:3/110@fsxnet, OK, S/R: 0/1 (0/1794 bytes))
12 Jan 23:16:[368] Running @start /min c:\telegard\husky\mailin.bat
- 12 Jan 23:16:56 [7368] executing `@start /min c:\telegard\husky\mailin.bat'


Also, are you running 1.1a-115?

C:\TELEGARD\BINKD>binkd.exe -vv
Binkd 1.1a-115 (Jul 2 2022 18:13:31/Win32)
Compilation flags: msvc, static, zlib, bzlib2, perl, https, ntlm, amiga_4d_outbound, bwlim, ipv6, af_force.
Facilities: fts5004 ipv6


Jay

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* In a message originally to Shurato, Fzf said:

Re: Mailer and front end... By: Shurato to deon on Thu Oct 03 2024
06:26 am

It's working! The only problem is that my exec command is not running

when

inbound packets are encountered. It was before, but I broke it some

how.

When you added the path portion, you added something which will never be a match to any inbound file.

Short version - Look at the example below and pay **VERY** close attention to the use of backslashes. The line wrapping is going to mangle the line:

exec "@start /min c:\\ele\\irex\\between.bat" c:\\\\ele\\\\irex\\\\inbound\\\\*.pkt

Pointlessly long version - The last parameter here is a regular
expression, not a filename mask. The backslash character is used as an escape character both when reading the configuration file and when performing the regex matching. So this original parameter in the BinkD config file:

c:\\ele\\irex\\inbound\\*.pkt

Gets escaped down to this when the config file is parsed:

c:\ele\irex\inbound\*.pkt

And when escaped the second time during the regex evalution, it becomes this:

c:eleirexinbound*.pkt

That is a literal string without any wildcards. You need the additional backslashes so the parameter gets passed to the regex function with the backslashes escaped.

\\\\ -> \\ -> \

Also, the regular expressions for the flag/exec parameters haven't been
case sensitive for a while now (20+ years) so there's no point accounting for upper and lower case in them...

Thanks, I'll try that! People insisted on case sensitivity, so I added those contingencies.

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* In a message originally to Shurato, Fzf said:

Re: Mailer and front end... By: Shurato to Shurato on Thu Oct 03 2024
06:27 am

I've got my delays set to 1h.

call-delay 1h rescan-delay 1h

Why would you do this? Even for a super-busy mail hub a 1 hour rescan
delay would be quite excessive. A 1 hour call delay on top of that also makes little sense.

It was defaulting to a minute. What should I set it to?

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* In a message originally to Shurato, Warpslide said:

On 05 Oct 2024, Shurato said the following...

I'll set that up. I don't see it making exec commands run though,

all

of my nodes are sending lower case file names right now.

Have you tried not putting the path in? e.g.

exec "@start /min c:\\ele\\irex\\between.bat" *.[pP][kK][tT] exec
"@start /min c:\\ele\\irex\\between.bat" *.[STFWMstfwm][ouaherOUAHER][0-9A-Za-z]

I'll try that.

That's what I have setup on Windows/Telegard and it works here:

- 12 Jan 23:16:56 [7368] receiving a20eaa00.pkt (1794 byte(s), off 0)
+ 12 Jan 23:16:56 [7368] a20eaa00.pkt -> c:\telegard\echomail\in\a20eaa00.pkt 12 Jan 23:16:56 [7368] got
*.pkt, delayed starting @start /min c:\telegard\husky\mailin.bat +
12 Jan 23:16:368] rcvd: a20eaa00.pkt (1794, 1794.00 CPS, 1:12/0@fidonet)
+ 12 Jan 23:16:56 [7368] done (to 21:3/110@fsxnet, OK, S/R: 0/1 (0/1794 bytes)) 12 Jan 23:16:[368] Running @start /min
c:\telegard\husky\mailin.bat - 12 Jan 23:16:56 [7368] executing
`@start /min c:\telegard\husky\mailin.bat'

Also, are you running 1.1a-115?

Yes, i am.

C:\TELEGARD\BINKD>binkd.exe -vv Binkd 1.1a-115 (Jul 2 2022
18:13:31/Win32) Compilation flags: msvc, static, zlib, bzlib2,
perl, https, ntlm, amiga_4d_outbound, bwlim, ipv6, af_force.
Facilities: fts5004 ipv6

Jay

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On 05 Oct 2024, Shurato said the following...

I'll set that up. I don't see it making exec commands run though,

all

of my nodes are sending lower case file names right now.

Have you tried not putting the path in? e.g.

exec "@start /min c:\\ele\\irex\\between.bat" *.[pP][kK][tT] exec

That works, thanks!

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Re: Mailer and front end...
By: Shurato to Fzf on Sun Oct 06 2024 05:21 pm

Also, the regular expressions for the flag/exec parameters haven't
been case sensitive for a while now (20+ years) so there's no point
accounting
for upper and lower case in them...

Thanks, I'll try that! People insisted on case sensitivity, so I added those contingencies.

Yes, the documentation and examples have not been updated in quite a long time either. Most still show adding case variables to the regular expressions when it is no longer necessary.
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Re: Mailer and front end...
By: Shurato to Fzf on Sun Oct 06 2024 05:21 pm

Why would you do this? Even for a super-busy mail hub a 1 hour rescan
delay would be quite excessive. A 1 hour call delay on top of that
also makes little sense.

It was defaulting to a minute. What should I set it to?

The default of one minute is fine for a regular node. The point of adding delays is to give a busy system time to assemble single large mail exchanges for other nodes rather than a bunch of small transfers. Doing so makes sense for a mail hub but just adds unnecessary delays on an end node. It won't hurt anything but BinkD is going to just sit doing nothing for an hour at a time.
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