I currently use no-ip.com's free service and with the domain register, I am getting a url redirection to my computer from flamingstar.no-ip.info and I'm looking (prefer free) service that if I

I use afraid.org, which revolves around the concept of shared domains. You VK>use your domain, but if using the free service, you are also offering your VK>domain for others to register hostnames (after a year or so, no one register VK>a hostname in my domain besides myself ;) ). I've since upgraded to a paid VK>service (US $60/year), which allows me to make up to 3 of my domains totally

Thanks for your comments on the service you use. If you upgrade to the
pay service, does your domain still redirect or does it go directly to
your board.

Thanks,
Pbmountaincat

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I know there a lot of services out there, but just wondering what other
use (free or pay) to do this.

I use www.dyndns.org -- and they have a Windows automatic updater
freeware program. Several domain names are available to choose
from...see their website FAQ for details.

Daryl
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Hello,

I currently use no-ip.com's free service and with the domain register, I
am getting a url redirection to my computer from
flamingstar.no-ip.info and I'm looking (prefer free) service that if I
go to www.flamingstar.com or telnet, it goes directly to me with same
domain name.

I know there a lot of services out there, but just wondering what other
use (free or pay) to do this.

I appreciate your feedback.

Thanks,
Pbmountaincat

Enom.com is a regular ICANN registrar that allows dynamic DNS also. I've used it in the past and it works really well. They have a lot of DNS servers, and you can have subdomains like telnet.whatever.com, mail.whatever.com, etc...

Hope this helps!

Fireball

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Pbmountaincat wrote to VK3JED <=-

I currently use no-ip.com's free service and with the domain register, I am getting a url redirection to my computer from flamingstar.no-ip.info and I'm looking (prefer free) service that if I

I use afraid.org, which revolves around the concept of shared domains. You
use your domain, but if using the free service, you are also offering your
domain for others to register hostnames (after a year or so, no one

egister

a hostname in my domain besides myself ;) ). I've since upgraded to a paid
service (US $60/year), which allows me to make up to 3 of my domains

otally

Thanks for your comments on the service you use. If you upgrade to the
pay service, does your domain still redirect or does it go directly to your board.

You misinterpreted. Even on the free service, you can have a domain that points to your board. Redirection is just another option they have (which is useful for when you want a web site that is at www.somesite.com/blah/weirdfilename.html to simply appear as www.mydomain.com).
You would have to point the domain directiy to your BBS for telnet to work anyway. You can try it out. telnet to reflector.vkradio.com :)


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"Daryl Stout" <daryl.stout@VERT/TBOLT> wrote in message news:45951579.10483.dove-sys@vert.synchro.net...

I know there a lot of services out there, but just wondering what

other

use (free or pay) to do this.

I use www.dyndns.org -- and they have a Windows automatic updater
freeware program. Several domain names are available to choose
from...see their website FAQ for details.

Daryl
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well I've been using the free service from dyndns, and with the updater it
has rarely given me any trouble, and I like it a lot.

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well I've been using the free service from dyndns, and with the updater it has rarely given me any trouble, and I like it a lot.

This is what I use as well. Then again, I also have my own domain that I use, I just update the DNS records any time the IP changes ... which is very rarely in my case.

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Re: Re: domain/dns question
By: Warp 4 to Danmint on Tue Jan 09 2007 07:02 pm

well I've been using the free service from dyndns, and with the updater i has rarely given me any trouble, and I like it a lot.

This is what I use as well. Then again, I also have my own domain that I us I just update the DNS records any time the IP changes ... which is very rare in my case.

Well I'm on DSL here so I have dynamic ips so I need the updater to manage it for me. Occasionally I have to shut everything down and let my router recycle, but that's usually all.

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Danmint wrote to Warp 4 <=-

Well I'm on DSL here so I have dynamic ips so I need the updater to
manage it for me. Occasionally I have to shut everything down and let
my router recycle, but that's usually all.

I guess I'm spoiled. I've had the same static IP since 1999. I pay a little more, but my ISP's service is impeccible, and I'd like to make sure he
stays in business.

Actually, I'd like to send him coke and hookers to keep him happy.

--pF

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Re: Re: domain/dns question
By: Poindexter Fortran to Danmint on Wed Jan 10 2007 06:49:00

I guess I'm spoiled. I've had the same static IP since 1999. I pay a little more, but my ISP's service is impeccible, and I'd like to make sure he
stays in business.

Actually, I'd like to send him coke and hookers to keep him happy.

A fixed IP address (for my ADSL service) costs $70/month extra.

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Re: Re: domain/dns question
By: Angus McLeod to Poindexter Fortran on Thu Jan 11 2007 13:53:00

I guess I'm spoiled. I've had the same static IP since 1999. I pay a litt more, but my ISP's service is impeccible, and I'd like to make sure he stays in business.

Actually, I'd like to send him coke and hookers to keep him happy.

A fixed IP address (for my ADSL service) costs $70/month extra.

That's cheaper than coke and hookers.

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Re: Re: domain/dns question
By: Radagast to Angus McLeod on Thu Jan 11 2007 14:23:00

A fixed IP address (for my ADSL service) costs $70/month extra.

That's cheaper than coke and hookers.

Coke is $1.25 a bottle, or $4.00 for a 2L PET.

Hookers vary in price, depending on the size of the fish.

OH DAMN!

Stuck a coke in the freezer to get cold quickly! That was Monday...
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Re: Re: domain/dns question
By: Angus McLeod to Radagast on Thu Jan 11 2007 17:08:00

A fixed IP address (for my ADSL service) costs $70/month extra.

That's cheaper than coke and hookers.

Coke is $1.25 a bottle, or $4.00 for a 2L PET.

Hookers vary in price, depending on the size of the fish.

OH DAMN!

Stuck a coke in the freezer to get cold quickly! That was Monday...

I bet it's cold now.

I bet it's also gonna be tough to get it out of your freezer.

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Re: Re: domain/dns question
By: Radagast to Angus McLeod on Thu Jan 11 2007 15:47:00

Stuck a coke in the freezer to get cold quickly! That was Monday...

I bet it's cold now.

Yep. Sure was!

I bet it's also gonna be tough to get it out of your freezer.

No, not at all. Fortunately, the bottle had not burst -- just swollen up like a pregnant dirigible...

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Re: Re: domain/dns question
By: Angus McLeod to Radagast on Thu Jan 11 2007 05:08 pm

Re: Re: domain/dns question
By: Radagast to Angus McLeod on Thu Jan 11 2007 14:23:00

A fixed IP address (for my ADSL service) costs $70/month extra.

That's cheaper than coke and hookers.

Coke is $1.25 a bottle, or $4.00 for a 2L PET.

Hookers vary in price, depending on the size of the fish.

OH DAMN!

Stuck a coke in the freezer to get cold quickly! That was Monday...

I don't do Coke, I do Dr Pepper!

This message has ended, go in peace...

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2007-01-11 13.53, Angus McLeod wrote to Poindexter Fortran:

Re: Re: domain/dns question
By: Poindexter Fortran to Danmint on Wed Jan 10 2007 06:49:00

I guess I'm spoiled. I've had the same static IP since 1999. I pay a
little more, but my ISP's service is impeccible, and I'd like to make
sure he stays in business.

Actually, I'd like to send him coke and hookers to keep him happy.

A fixed IP address (for my ADSL service) costs $70/month extra.

Huh.. Here in sweden i give 50/month for 28M in/1M out, 5 static ip's
and all ports open :)

/Fidde


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Re: Re: domain/dns question
By: Fidde to Angus Mcleod on Fri Jan 12 2007 03:01:00

A fixed IP address (for my ADSL service) costs $70/month extra.

Huh.. Here in sweden i give 50/month for 28M in/1M out, 5 static ip's
and all ports open :)

So can you gimme a quick run-down on the emigration procedure?
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Re: Re: domain/dns question
By: Radagast to Angus McLeod on Thu Jan 11 2007 02:23 pm

more, but my ISP's service is impeccible, and I'd like to make sure he stays in business.

Actually, I'd like to send him coke and hookers to keep him happy.

A fixed IP address (for my ADSL service) costs $70/month extra.

That's cheaper than coke and hookers.

You would know! :)

---TLM
www.LizardMaster.com

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Fidde wrote:

Huh.. Here in sweden i give 50/month for 28M in/1M out, 5 static ip's
and all ports open :)

Wish I could do that.. don't recall exactly how much I am paying, but more
than that for 7mb down, 1mb up, and 13 static IP's...

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Angus McLeod wrote:

Huh.. Here in sweden i give 50/month for 28M in/1M out, 5 static ip's
and all ports open :)

So can you gimme a quick run-down on the emigration procedure?

I think my first question would be, "how hard would it be to get by on
English in Sweden?"

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So can you gimme a quick run-down on the emigration procedure?

Yeah... I hear the women there are hot...


De’ÎH

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Re: Re: domain/dns question
By: Angus McLeod to Fidde on Thu Jan 11 2007 11:06 pm

Re: Re: domain/dns question
By: Fidde to Angus Mcleod on Fri Jan 12 2007 03:01:00

A fixed IP address (for my ADSL service) costs $70/month extra.

Huh.. Here in sweden i give 50/month for 28M in/1M out, 5 static ip's
and all ports open :)

So can you gimme a quick run-down on the emigration procedure?

No shit! Sign me up.

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www.freewebs.com/ralphsmole
www.hillsofbriaroaks.bravehost.com


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Re: Re: domain/dns question
By: Death to Angus McLeod on Fri Jan 12 2007 01:34 am

So can you gimme a quick run-down on the emigration procedure?

Yeah... I hear the women there are hot...

De’ÎH

Wonder if ABBA is still around?

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Re: Re: domain/dns question
By: Tracker1 to Angus McLeod on Fri Jan 12 2007 00:34:00

Huh.. Here in sweden i give 50/month for 28M in/1M out, 5 static ip's
and all ports open :)

So can you gimme a quick run-down on the emigration procedure?

I think my first question would be, "how hard would it be to get by on English in Sweden?"

I wasn't planning to talk to anyone.

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2007-01-11 23.06, Angus McLeod wrote to Fidde:

A fixed IP address (for my ADSL service) costs $70/month extra.

Huh.. Here in sweden i give 50/month for 28M in/1M out, 5 static ip's
and all ports open :)

So can you gimme a quick run-down on the emigration procedure?

LOL Sure, you are welcome :)
Soon, in april they upgrade to 100M, for same price :)
But we have other problems like programs not working with
swedish chars and more..

/Fidde


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Re: Re: domain/dns question
By: The Lizard Master to Radagast on Thu Jan 11 2007 19:58:00

more, but my ISP's service is impeccible, and I'd like to make sure stays in business.

Actually, I'd like to send him coke and hookers to keep him happy.

A fixed IP address (for my ADSL service) costs $70/month extra.

That's cheaper than coke and hookers.

You would know! :)

I love coke. But alas, it's far too expensive, and addictive for me to
every actually BUY any. But should "Joe Blow" come offer me some... :-D

Never tried hookers.

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2007-01-12 00.34, Tracker1 wrote to Angus McLeod:

Angus McLeod wrote:

Huh.. Here in sweden i give 50/month for 28M in/1M out, 5 static ip's
and all ports open :)

So can you gimme a quick run-down on the emigration procedure?

I think my first question would be, "how hard would it be to get by on English in Sweden?"

No problem i think, most people here can english better than me. ;)

/Fidde


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Re: Re: domain/dns question
By: Angus McLeod to Fidde on Thu Jan 11 2007 11:06 pm

Re: Re: domain/dns question
By: Fidde to Angus Mcleod on Fri Jan 12 2007 03:01:00

A fixed IP address (for my ADSL service) costs $70/month extra.

Huh.. Here in sweden i give 50/month for 28M in/1M out, 5 static ip's
and all ports open :)

So can you gimme a quick run-down on the emigration procedure?

You would be willing to trade your weather for cheaper DSL?

---TLM
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Re: Re: domain/dns question
By: The Lizard Master to Angus McLeod on Fri Jan 12 2007 09:15:00

Huh.. Here in sweden i give 50/month for 28M in/1M out, 5 static ip's and all ports open :)

So can you gimme a quick run-down on the emigration procedure?

You would be willing to trade your weather for cheaper DSL?

I never go outdoors anymore anyhow.... :(


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Re: Re: domain/dns question
By: Poindexter Fortran to Danmint on Wed Jan 10 2007 06:49 am

more, but my ISP's service is impeccible, and I'd like to make sure he
stays in business.

Actually, I'd like to send him coke and hookers to keep him happy.

--pF

In my case it's a big multi-national leviathon, and despite the occasional headaches with dindns, it suites me just fine.

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Re: Re: domain/dns question
By: Warp 4 to Danmint on Tue Jan 09 2007 07:02 pm

well I've been using the free service from dyndns, and with the updater i has rarely given me any trouble, and I like it a lot.

This is what I use as well. Then again, I also have my own domain that I us I just update the DNS records any time the IP changes ... which is very rare in my case.

I use DynDNS's Custom DNS service and to make things simple they are also the registrar for my domain name. Works like a charm and I used the auto-updater so I don't have to change the IP manually.

:)


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Address 1: systemreboot.net
Address 2: bitbucket.homedns.org
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Re: Re: domain/dns question
By: Angus McLeod to Fidde on Thu Jan 11 2007 11:06 pm

Re: Re: domain/dns question
By: Fidde to Angus Mcleod on Fri Jan 12 2007 03:01:00

A fixed IP address (for my ADSL service) costs $70/month extra.

Huh.. Here in sweden i give 50/month for 28M in/1M out, 5 static ip's
and all ports open :)

Ditto! ;)


- Ibanez

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Http, Telnet, FTP:
Address 1: systemreboot.net
Address 2: bitbucket.homedns.org
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Re: Re: domain/dns question
By: Angus McLeod to Radagast on Thu Jan 11 2007 05:08 pm

Re: Re: domain/dns question
By: Radagast to Angus McLeod on Thu Jan 11 2007 14:23:00

A fixed IP address (for my ADSL service) costs $70/month extra.

That's cheaper than coke and hookers.

Coke is $1.25 a bottle, or $4.00 for a 2L PET.

Maybe he was referring to a *different* kind of coke? :-)

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Ibanez wrote to Warp 4 <=-

This is what I use as well. Then again, I also have my own domain that I us I just update the DNS records any time the IP changes ... which is very rare in my case.

I use DynDNS's Custom DNS service and to make things simple they are
also the registrar for my domain name. Works like a charm and I used
the auto-updater so I don't have to change the IP manually.

I do, too, just in case :)

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Angus McLeod wrote to Poindexter Fortran <=-

A fixed IP address (for my ADSL service) costs $70/month extra.

HOLY CRAP.

I pay $50/month for 1.5/384 DSL, 1 static IP, 5 POP mailboxes, 20 mb of web space, etc. etc.

--pF

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Re: Re: domain/dns question
By: Poindexter Fortran to Angus McLeod on Fri Jan 12 2007 10:47 am

Angus McLeod wrote to Poindexter Fortran <=-

A fixed IP address (for my ADSL service) costs $70/month extra.

HOLY CRAP.

I pay $50/month for 1.5/384 DSL, 1 static IP, 5 POP mailboxes, 20 mb of web space, etc. etc.

--pF

I remember years ago a dialup provider I used wanted to charge quite a bit
at the time for static IP... I think it's because the address space is so crowded now. Prices probably vary quite a bit depending on population
density and how much address space that particular provider has been
allocated, and how much THEY'RE paying their upstream (whose price again is based on the supply and demand).
I havn't been keeping up with what's going on with the new IP version 6... havn't even read up on it, yet, except that it's supposed to dramatically increase the number space. I'm wondering if/when the Internet's going to transition to it...prices will probably start dropping on static IPs if it'll ever get fully implemented. Unfortunately, I've seen some examples of what
it looks like...I vaguely remember it resembling hexadecimal (ugh).

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Re: Re: domain/dns question
By: Gary Perkins to Poindexter Fortran on Mon Jan 29 2007 20:08:00

Prices probably vary quite a bit depending on population density and
how much address space that particular provider has been allocated, and
how much THEY'RE paying their upstream (whose price again is based on
the supply and demand).

Or in our case it's based on the fact it's Cable & Wireless and they've
been butt-fucking the third world for communications services for over 125 years.

I havn't been keeping up with what's going on with the new IP version 6... havn't even read up on it, yet, except that it's supposed to dramatically increase the number space.

Number space goes from 32-bit (giving a total of 4,294,967,296 possible
IP's) to 128-bit (340,282,366,920,938,463,463,374,607,431,768,211,456
possible IP's).every living individual on the planet could be given an IP block 1,000,000,000,000,000,000 times bigger than the entire IPv4 number
space and there would STILL be ten times as many numbers left over.

I can't wait to apply for my own 4,294,967,296-number block. But they
will probably figure a way to fold government sensorship, FBI monitoring
and DRM into the system before that day occurs.

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Re: Re: domain/dns question
By: Angus McLeod to Gary Perkins on Tue Jan 30 2007 02:00 am

Number space goes from 32-bit (giving a total of 4,294,967,296 possible IP's) to 128-bit (340,282,366,920,938,463,463,374,607,431,768,211,456 possible IP's).every living individual on the planet could be given an IP block 1,000,000,000,000,000,000 times bigger than the entire IPv4 number space and there would STILL be ten times as many numbers left over.

I can't wait to apply for my own 4,294,967,296-number block. But they
will probably figure a way to fold government sensorship, FBI monitoring
and DRM into the system before that day occurs.

Hehe, yeah, I'm sure the government will find some was to screw up ipv6. I was just thinking when I read the part about applying for you own blocks of network address space...that kind of makes something rattle around in my head... could be some useful applications for owning a range of IPs and
having your own static number to use. Just can't flesh out the idea rattling around up there...but, I'm sure someone will come up with some creative cool ideas. :)

I'm gonna go read up on ipv6 next. Anyone hear of the timetable on that?

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Re: Re: domain/dns question
By: Gary Perkins to Angus McLeod on Tue Jan 30 2007 21:42:00

I'm gonna go read up on ipv6 next. Anyone hear of the timetable on that?

IPv6 has been functional on Linux for some years now. I've often thought
of experimenting with it, but have never got around to it.

I don't really know enough about it to be sure, but I rather suspect that
the routers, switches, firewalls and other ISP hardware of the world
aren't ready to allow IPv6 deployment to begin. Not to mention the
zillions of crappy Windows boxes out there.

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Gary Perkins wrote to Poindexter Fortran <=-

I havn't been keeping up with what's going on with the new IP version 6... havn't even read up on it, yet, except that it's supposed to dramatically increase the number space. I'm wondering if/when the Internet's going to transition to it...prices will probably start
dropping on static IPs if it'll ever get fully implemented.

You're likely to get at least a /64 network (enough for a home LAN), with /48 (enough for 65536 subnets!) being readily available. I have a /48 range on IPv6 myself.

Unfortunately, I've seen some examples of what it looks like...I
vaguely remember it resembling hexadecimal (ugh).

Yep, addresses like 2001:f4e:123::f00d:ffed (I made that one up ;) )



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Angus McLeod wrote to Gary Perkins <=-

Re: Re: domain/dns question
By: Gary Perkins to Angus McLeod on Tue Jan 30 2007 21:42:00

I'm gonna go read up on ipv6 next. Anyone hear of the timetable on that?

IPv6 has been functional on Linux for some years now. I've often
thought of experimenting with it, but have never got around to it.

It's also available on Windows XP and Vista, as well as the BSD flavours of UNIX.

I don't really know enough about it to be sure, but I rather suspect
that the routers, switches, firewalls and other ISP hardware of the
world aren't ready to allow IPv6 deployment to begin. Not to mention
the zillions of crappy Windows boxes out there.

ISPs will have varying support (newer Cisco boxes support IPv6), but the SOHO routers most of us don't support IPve (unless you've done as I have and add 3rd party firmware). Most Windows boxes are XP, which supports IPv6 (run "ipv6 install" at a command prompt) The biggest issue is apps need to be rewritten to support IPv6, and this laregly hasn't been done in the Windows world (in the *NIX world, many apps now have IPv6 support out of the box).


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Re: Re: domain/dns question
By: Vk3jed to Gary Perkins on Thu Feb 01 2007 19:37:00

You're likely to get at least a /64 network (enough for a home LAN)

I should say so, since it would be four billion times larger than the
entire current IPv4 address-space.

A /64 network would contain 18,446,744,073,709,551,616 individual IP addresses.
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Re: Re: domain/dns question
By: Vk3jed to Angus McLeod on Thu Feb 01 2007 07:41 pm

ISPs will have varying support (newer Cisco boxes support IPv6), but the SOH routers most of us don't support IPve (unless you've done as I have and add party firmware). Most Windows boxes are XP, which supports IPv6 (run "ipv6 install" at a command prompt) The biggest issue is apps need to be rewritten

From what I read, if you have older apps there should be a translation
layer you can use...a wrapper... to make IPv4 apps talk to IPv6... from what
I understand so far, I think through wrappers and tunnels, someone could talk IPv6 now and do ok. I know I've soon one or two v6 addresses out there
(mostly junk stuff so far..). Anyone messed around with it yet?

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Re: Re: domain/dns question
By: Gary Perkins to Vk3jed on Thu Feb 01 2007 16:34:00

I know I've soon one or two v6 addresses out there (mostly junk stuff
so far..). Anyone messed around with it yet?

I've thought about it, but to what end?

I mean, I could set up a handful of machines here, and connect them via
IPv6, but what would that get me?

Until I can register a domain, have it resolve to an IPv6 address, and persuade my ISP to allow connections to my toaster via a Procter & Gamble TCP/IP Kitchen Appliance Ethernet Interface so that strangers all over
the world could change my darkness setting from 'Light' to 'Sooty' and
back again, what exact messing around might I do?

What really worries me is that the whole IPv6 technology will descend into
a squabbling-match between the current 'big players' to see who gets to control content and access. The $70 I have to pay to get a single fixed
IP should, just based on increased availability, translate to ten million, billion, billion IP addresses for a cent. You think that's gonna happen? Doubt it. I'll have to pay *more* to upgrade to a single IPv6 address,
which will be monitored by the FBI (just to ensure my 'freedom') and to
make sure that no 'media' is transmitted without the approval of
Microsoft's newly acquired RIAA division.
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Re: Re: domain/dns question
By: Angus McLeod to Gary Perkins on Thu Feb 01 2007 09:58 pm

Re: Re: domain/dns question
By: Gary Perkins to Vk3jed on Thu Feb 01 2007 16:34:00

I know I've soon one or two v6 addresses out there (mostly junk stuff
so far..). Anyone messed around with it yet?

I've thought about it, but to what end?

At this point, coolness factor I suppose :)
I just like tinkering with things.

I mean, I could set up a handful of machines here, and connect them via IPv6, but what would that get me?

Until I can register a domain, have it resolve to an IPv6 address, and persuade my ISP to allow connections to my toaster via a Procter & Gamble TCP/IP Kitchen Appliance Ethernet Interface so that strangers all over
the world could change my darkness setting from 'Light' to 'Sooty' and
back again, what exact messing around might I do?

What really worries me is that the whole IPv6 technology will descend into
a squabbling-match between the current 'big players' to see who gets to control content and access. The $70 I have to pay to get a single fixed
IP should, just based on increased availability, translate to ten million, billion, billion IP addresses for a cent. You think that's gonna happen? Doubt it. I'll have to pay *more* to upgrade to a single IPv6 address, which will be monitored by the FBI (just to ensure my 'freedom') and to
make sure that no 'media' is transmitted without the approval of
Microsoft's newly acquired RIAA division.

Wow, paranoid, eh?

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well I've been using the free service from dyndns, and with the updater

it

has rarely given me any trouble, and I like it a lot.

This is what I use as well. Then again, I also have my own domain that I

use,

I just update the DNS records any time the IP changes ... which is very

rarely

in my case.

I'm going to be different. While I was running my BBS from home (it's now on a windows server down in Dallas) my Vonage Linksys box has a DynDNS client built in to it which would update when ever it obtained a new IP. If other Linksys boxes have a similar set-up then I'd use that instead so you can just bash in the details and forget about it completely.

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......
make sure that no 'media' is transmitted without the approval of Microsoft's newly acquired RIAA division.

Wow, paranoid, eh?

When big business, paranoid societies (see what occured with TERROR DRAMA in Boston over a cartoon character) and Government get involved in making decisions about a public service (which the internet now is) it's bound to start happening eventually.

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Re: Re: domain/dns question
By: Gary Perkins to Angus McLeod on Fri Feb 02 2007 12:34 am

Re: Re: domain/dns question
By: Angus McLeod to Gary Perkins on Thu Feb 01 2007 09:58 pm

Re: Re: domain/dns question
By: Gary Perkins to Vk3jed on Thu Feb 01 2007 16:34:00

I know I've soon one or two v6 addresses out there (mostly junk stuff so far..). Anyone messed around with it yet?

I've thought about it, but to what end?

At this point, coolness factor I suppose :)
I just like tinkering with things.

I mean, I could set up a handful of machines here, and connect them via IPv6, but what would that get me?

Until I can register a domain, have it resolve to an IPv6 address, and persuade my ISP to allow connections to my toaster via a Procter & Gamble TCP/IP Kitchen Appliance Ethernet Interface so that strangers all over the world could change my darkness setting from 'Light' to 'Sooty' and back again, what exact messing around might I do?

What really worries me is that the whole IPv6 technology will descend int a squabbling-match between the current 'big players' to see who gets to control content and access. The $70 I have to pay to get a single fixed IP should, just based on increased availability, translate to ten million billion, billion IP addresses for a cent. You think that's gonna happen? Doubt it. I'll have to pay *more* to upgrade to a single IPv6 address, which will be monitored by the FBI (just to ensure my 'freedom') and to make sure that no 'media' is transmitted without the approval of Microsoft's newly acquired RIAA division.

Wow, paranoid, eh?

I could agree with that. The internet will get so restrictive that I think people will quit and go back to running a dos bbs again. I can see that happening in the future.

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Re: Re: domain/dns question
By: The Millionaire to Gary Perkins on Fri Feb 02 2007 09:12 am

Wow, paranoid, eh?

I could agree with that. The internet will get so restrictive that I think people will quit and go back to running a dos bbs again. I can see that happening in the future.

I think they'll TRY to restrict things on the internet, but they've never
be able to be effective about it.
Same thing with porn and piracy on BBSes in the past. There were a few
high profile takedowns, but the "problem" remained prevalent throughout the
US (and, I suppose, the world).


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Re: Re: domain/dns question
By: Gary Perkins to The Millionaire on Fri Feb 02 2007 12:47 pm

Re: Re: domain/dns question
By: The Millionaire to Gary Perkins on Fri Feb 02 2007 09:12 am

Wow, paranoid, eh?

I could agree with that. The internet will get so restrictive that I thin people will quit and go back to running a dos bbs again. I can see that happening in the future.

I think they'll TRY to restrict things on the internet, but they've never be able to be effective about it.
Same thing with porn and piracy on BBSes in the past. There were a few high profile takedowns, but the "problem" remained prevalent throughout the US (and, I suppose, the world).

Yeah I remember hearing about that too.

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Re: Re: domain/dns question
By: Gary Perkins to Angus McLeod on Fri Feb 02 2007 00:34:00

What really worries me is that the whole IPv6 technology will descend int a squabbling-match between the current 'big players' to see who gets to control content and access. The $70 I have to pay to get a single fixed IP should, just based on increased availability, translate to ten million billion, billion IP addresses for a cent. You think that's gonna happen? Doubt it. I'll have to pay *more* to upgrade to a single IPv6 address, which will be monitored by the FBI (just to ensure my 'freedom') and to make sure that no 'media' is transmitted without the approval of Microsoft's newly acquired RIAA division.

Wow, paranoid, eh?

Yes, paranoid. Because everything else from HDTV to the new DVD standards HAVEN'T been plagued by exactly that kind of crap.

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Re: Re: domain/dns question
By: Angus McLeod to Gary Perkins on Fri Feb 02 2007 11:20 am

Re: Re: domain/dns question
By: Gary Perkins to Angus McLeod on Fri Feb 02 2007 00:34:00

What really worries me is that the whole IPv6 technology will descend a squabbling-match between the current 'big players' to see who gets t control content and access. The $70 I have to pay to get a single fix IP should, just based on increased availability, translate to ten mill billion, billion IP addresses for a cent. You think that's gonna happ Doubt it. I'll have to pay *more* to upgrade to a single IPv6 address which will be monitored by the FBI (just to ensure my 'freedom') and t make sure that no 'media' is transmitted without the approval of Microsoft's newly acquired RIAA division.

Wow, paranoid, eh?

Yes, paranoid. Because everything else from HDTV to the new DVD standards HAVEN'T been plagued by exactly that kind of crap.

Not yet at least. Give it some time. It will too. Just be ready is all I'll say.

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Re: Re: domain/dns question
By: Vk3jed to Gary Perkins on Thu Feb 01 2007 19:37:00

You're likely to get at least a /64 network (enough for a home LAN)

I should say so, since it would be four billion times larger than the entire current IPv4 address-space.

A /64 network would contain 18,446,744,073,709,551,616 individual IP addresses.

Indeed. ;) Well, I might _just_ have enough... ;)


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Re: Re: domain/dns question
By: Vk3jed to Angus McLeod on Thu Feb 01 2007 07:41 pm

ISPs will have varying support (newer Cisco boxes support IPv6), but the SOH routers most of us don't support IPve (unless you've done as I have and add party firmware). Most Windows boxes are XP, which supports IPv6 (run "ipv6 install" at a command prompt) The biggest issue is apps need to be rewritten

From what I read, if you have older apps there should be a
translation layer you can use...a wrapper... to make IPv4 apps talk to IPv6... from what I understand so far, I think through wrappers and tunnels, someone could talk IPv6 now and do ok. I know I've soon one
or two v6 addresses out there (mostly junk stuff so far..). Anyone
messed around with it yet?

The problem with using wrappers is there are a LOT more IPv6 hosts than there are available IPv4 addresses to map them to, so you get problems similar to those created by NAT. I haven't seen a wrapper to allow incoming traffic. However, "port bouncers" that connect IPv4 apps to IPv6 networks and vice versa (a little like port forwarding) do exist. And there's no reason you can't run dual stacks (as I do).

For me, IPv6 will be a nice transition to make. :)


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Re: Re: domain/dns question
By: Gary Perkins to Vk3jed on Thu Feb 01 2007 16:34:00

I know I've soon one or two v6 addresses out there (mostly junk stuff
so far..). Anyone messed around with it yet?

I've thought about it, but to what end?

I mean, I could set up a handful of machines here, and connect them via IPv6, but what would that get me?

Until I can register a domain, have it resolve to an IPv6 address, and

vkradio.com has several IPv6 addresses in it. ;)

persuade my ISP to allow connections to my toaster via a Procter &
Gamble TCP/IP Kitchen Appliance Ethernet Interface so that strangers
all over the world could change my darkness setting from 'Light' to 'Sooty' and back again, what exact messing around might I do?

Well, you can do it surprisingly easily, though until ISPs get into the act, you have to use a tunnel broker.


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Re: Re: domain/dns question
By: Vk3jed to Angus McLeod on Sun Feb 04 2007 17:46:00

A /64 network would contain 18,446,744,073,709,551,616 individual IP addresses.

Indeed. ;) Well, I might _just_ have enough... ;)

Yah. I mean, how many toasters can a man own? :-)

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Re: Re: domain/dns question
By: Vk3jed to Angus McLeod on Sun Feb 04 2007 17:46:00

A /64 network would contain 18,446,744,073,709,551,616 individual IP addresses.

Indeed. ;) Well, I might _just_ have enough... ;)

Yah. I mean, how many toasters can a man own? :-)

I'm aiming for molecular scale web servers... ;)


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I could agree with that. The internet will get so restrictive that I think people will quit and go back to running a dos bbs again. I can see that happening in the future.

WHAT?!?!? Are you nuts. I would love to see dial up BBS's come back. But it is never going to happen. And how can the governments really control the Internet. Are they going to control my BBS?

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Re: Re: domain/dns question
By: Phantomrage to The Millionaire on Sat Feb 10 2007 02:59:00

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I am a great lover of music... but I am also a lover of science too... and
your statement would ring truer if U used the word art rather than science.

Emotions, or the lack there of, are subjective. One type of music could
drive someone nuts while an other kind could not.

The only music I thought that ever connected with "ALL" generations was that
of a band called Wheedpuller...

Thanx

Joe

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The only music I thought that ever connected with "ALL" generations was that of a band called Wheedpuller...

Brown-noser!
:-)

Isn't it Weedpuller?


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WHAT?!?!? Are you nuts. I would love to see dial up BBS's come back. But

it

is never going to happen. And how can the governments really control the Internet. Are they going to control my BBS?

The Great Firewall of China comes to mind.

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Re: Re: domain/dns question
By: Kevin to Phantomrage on Mon Feb 12 2007 06:25:00

And how can the governments really control the Internet. Are they
going to control my BBS?

The Great Firewall of China comes to mind.

And ECHELON. And DCS1000 (formerly Carnivore). And Magic Lantern and
CALEA and all the rest.

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Re: Re: domain/dns question
By: Angus McLeod to Gary Perkins on Wed Jan 31 2007 10:49 am

I don't really know enough about it to be sure, but I rather suspect that the routers, switches, firewalls and other ISP hardware of the world
aren't ready to allow IPv6 deployment to begin. Not to mention the
zillions of crappy Windows boxes out there.

Vista ships with a dual stack by default.

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