Hello everyone,
I just finished getting my BBS up and running and everything seems fine on this
end. Looking forward to talking to everyone.

Earl
sysop Fishermans BBS located in NW Arkansas
telenet://fisherma.synchro.net

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Hi Earl, Ron here. Got your invite and will try to login soon. I havae just set up my bbs also. I used to run a dos bbs back in the 80's. I had close to 1000 users and it was fun. Setting up was a bit tricky now since Windows use causes one to forget the old dos commands. Windows makes one lazy. I am having some difficulties with telnet file xfers. Is yours working? If you can tell me what you did to make it work, it would be helpful

rOn
halnet datagrid bbs
telnet://halnet.servebbs.com
http://halnet.servebbs.com

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Top Gun wrote to Earl <=-

Windows makes one lazy. I am having some difficulties with telnet file xfers. Is yours working? If you can tell me what you did to make it work, it would be helpful

Your telnet file transfers may never work correctly. Depends on what
ISP your using, and what kind of DSL/Cable modem you've got. I've
tried 2 different setups, the Westell DSL Modem, and I now have a
Netopia DSL modem. Neither of these seem to allow telnet <Zmodem etc.>
type transfers. The systems connect, and the transfer starts, but, it
then times out. The only reason for it seems to be that some routers
just aren't using the protocol 100%. FTP and HTTP (which uses FTP) work great, so, I just get my users to use that instead. Minor thing, and it hasn't stopped my users from getting to the files...





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Re: Re: New Board
By: Sniper to Top Gun on Wed Jul 25 2007 11:29 pm

Top Gun wrote to Earl <=-

Windows makes one lazy. I am having some difficulties with telnet file xfers. Is yours working? If you can tell me what you did to make it work, it would be helpful

Your telnet file transfers may never work correctly. Depends on what
ISP your using, and what kind of DSL/Cable modem you've got. I've
tried 2 different setups, the Westell DSL Modem, and I now have a
Netopia DSL modem. Neither of these seem to allow telnet <Zmodem etc.>
type transfers. The systems connect, and the transfer starts, but, it
then times out.

If you can connect via Telnet, then you should be able to transfer files. There's nothing abou the ISP or router that would interfere with that.

digital man (xbox-live: digitlman)

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Re: Re: New Board
By: Sniper to Top Gun on Thu Jul 26 2007 00:29:00

Top Gun wrote to Earl <=-

Windows makes one lazy. I am having some difficulties with telnet file xfers. Is yours working? If you can tell me what you did to make it work, it would be helpful

Your telnet file transfers may never work correctly. Depends on what
ISP your using, and what kind of DSL/Cable modem you've got. I've
tried 2 different setups, the Westell DSL Modem, and I now have a
Netopia DSL modem. Neither of these seem to allow telnet <Zmodem etc.>
type transfers. The systems connect, and the transfer starts, but, it
then times out. The only reason for it seems to be that some routers
just aren't using the protocol 100%. FTP and HTTP (which uses FTP) work great, so, I just get my users to use that instead. Minor thing, and it hasn't stopped my users from getting to the files...

... Gone crazy, be back later, please leave message.

OK Thanks for the input Sniper.
I was thinking that the ftp is probably the best anyway. Clean Fast and reliable. Ok..Very interesting theory on the modems though..geez guess nothing works like the old days..

rOn

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Re: Re: New Board
By: Top Gun to Sniper on Thu Jul 26 2007 03:25 am

Re: Re: New Board
By: Sniper to Top Gun on Thu Jul 26 2007 00:29:00

Top Gun wrote to Earl <=-

Windows makes one lazy. I am having some difficulties with telnet f xfers. Is yours working? If you can tell me what you did to make i work, it would be helpful

Your telnet file transfers may never work correctly. Depends on what
ISP your using, and what kind of DSL/Cable modem you've got. I've
tried 2 different setups, the Westell DSL Modem, and I now have a
Netopia DSL modem. Neither of these seem to allow telnet <Zmodem etc.> type transfers. The systems connect, and the transfer starts, but, it then times out. The only reason for it seems to be that some routers just aren't using the protocol 100%. FTP and HTTP (which uses FTP) work great, so, I just get my users to use that instead. Minor thing, and it hasn't stopped my users from getting to the files...

... Gone crazy, be back later, please leave message.

OK Thanks for the input Sniper.
I was thinking that the ftp is probably the best anyway. Clean Fast and reliable. Ok..Very interesting theory on the modems though..geez guess noth works like the old days..

If X/Y/Zmodem file transfers aren't working then something is either
configured wrong with the Zmodem driver (SEXYZ?) on the BBS or there's a problem with the telnet client. Not all telnet clients support file transfers, and even those that do are not all equal in their abilities.

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Re: Re: New Board
By: Sniper to Top Gun on Wed Jul 25 2007 11:29 pm

Top Gun wrote to Earl <=-

Windows makes one lazy. I am having some difficulties with telnet

file

xfers. Is yours working? If you can tell me what you did to make

it

work, it would be helpful

Your telnet file transfers may never work correctly. Depends on what
ISP your using, and what kind of DSL/Cable modem you've got. I've
tried 2 different setups, the Westell DSL Modem, and I now have a
Netopia DSL modem. Neither of these seem to allow telnet <Zmodem etc.> type transfers. The systems connect, and the transfer starts, but, it then times out.

If you can connect via Telnet, then you should be able to transfer files. There's nothing abou the ISP or router that would interfere with that.

digital man (xbox-live: digitlman)
I have them working. I made changes to the protocol cmd lines that should

not have been made. The problem of xfers is probably more related to the terminal configuration that you use.

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Re: Re: New Board
By: Sniper to Top Gun on Wed Jul 25 2007 11:29 pm

just aren't using the protocol 100%. FTP and HTTP (which uses FTP) work

Just a quick correction, HTTP is not FTP. They're very different protocols, in the case of Sync you can browse the FTP via HTTP, but it's still using HTTP.

Beta

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Re: Re: New Board
By: Top Gun to Sniper on Thu Jul 26 2007 03:25 am

OK Thanks for the input Sniper.
I was thinking that the ftp is probably the best anyway. Clean Fast and reliable. Ok..Very interesting theory on the modems though..geez guess noth works like the old days..

It's much more likly that FTP will fail then HTTP due to routers performing NAT. If your computers are in a off-net subnet like 10.0.0.0/8, 192.168..0.0/16, ect then you have a router infront of you doing NAT (Network Address Translation). Because of this, and because FTP normally uses two ports (20 and 21), the path through your NAT doesn't always get setup for the second port. Some routers are good at this, some aren't. Using passive mode in FTP will generally get around this, but HTTP is still more reliable as it doesn't have any of these weirdnessses in it's protocol.

Beta

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Beta wrote:

just aren't using the protocol 100%. FTP and HTTP (which uses FTP) work

Just a quick correction, HTTP is not FTP. They're very different protocols, in
the case of Sync you can browse the FTP via HTTP, but it's still using HTTP.

Minor correction, can browse ftp with a web browser (html) but still using FTP. ;)

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Beta wrote:

It's much more likly that FTP will fail then HTTP due to routers performing NAT. If your computers are in a off-net subnet like 10.0.0.0/8, 192.168..0.0/16, ect then you have a router infront of you doing NAT (Network Address Translation). Because of this, and because FTP normally uses two ports
(20 and 21), the path through your NAT doesn't always get setup for the second
port. Some routers are good at this, some aren't. Using passive mode in FTP will generally get around this, but HTTP is still more reliable as it doesn't have any of these weirdnessses in it's protocol.

I think the weirdness for PASV ftp was so that server to server transfers could be initiated remotely.

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Re: Re: New Board
By: Beta to Sniper on Fri Aug 03 2007 06:35 am

Re: Re: New Board
By: Sniper to Top Gun on Wed Jul 25 2007 11:29 pm

just aren't using the protocol 100%. FTP and HTTP (which uses FTP) work

Just a quick correction, HTTP is not FTP. They're very different protocols, the case of Sync you can browse the FTP via HTTP, but it's still using HTTP.

Correction: you can browse the FTP via HTML, but it's still using FTP.

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